new frame rumors for 2023?

[ValPiti87]

Tarmac SL8 confirmed for TdF launch! The one-piece bar will be launched with it, no info on if customers can select width/stem length unfortunately.

No source, no credibility

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[CAAD8FRED]

Getting an SL7 so not to keen on the 8, but come on. Tell us more...

[BenCousins]

New Emonda ALR announced today. Not particularly WW but perhaps of interest to some:

https://www.bikeradar.com/news/2023-trek-emonda-alr/
https://road.cc/content/tech-news/updat ... ing-300425
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/trek-r ... ero-tubes/
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/trek ... han-before

I can't really see what it has over either the Allez Sprint as a crit racer or the CAAD13 as a winter racer though?

I think we see a slow return to aluminium bikes because both cost and environmental issues (AL is indeed much better than Carbon on that respect). It looks like a honest road bike for those who are interested in a more affordable road bike, not necessarily a "niche" bike like the Allez or a heavy duty bike like the CAAD

I think it's more like the return of steel around when we transitioned to alloy: i.e. hipsters.

Aluminium is cheaper and has seen a lot of improvement recently. I don't see why it should be limited to hipsters. A high-quality aluminium frame remains better than a cheap carbon. I will soon update my old carbon bike and I am considering AL as I want a fast, stiff bike and carbon is so expensive

Go back to 2006 and swap out the words 'aluminium' for 'steel'.

[hoosierdaddy]

Getting an SL7 so not to keen on the 8, but come on. Tell us more...

Slightly lighter, slightly more aero (one-piece bar), and still holding true to the "one bike to rule them all" idea. Basically a refined SL7 and nothing drastically changing. I'd be surprised if new wheels drop with the SL8.

There's strong rumors that a new Venge is in the works to make use of the new UCI aero rules, but I don't have anything concrete with that. The SL8 has already been announced to dealers. The big Spesh launch this year is a new Epic, so probably no Venge until next year if it happens.

[mrbrown4001]

Getting an SL7 so not to keen on the 8, but come on. Tell us more...

Slightly lighter, slightly more aero (one-piece bar), and still holding true to the "one bike to rule them all" idea. Basically a refined SL7 and nothing drastically changing. I'd be surprised if new wheels drop with the SL8.

There's strong rumors that a new Venge is in the works to make use of the new UCI aero rules, but I don't have anything concrete with that. The SL8 has already been announced to dealers. The big Spesh launch this year is a new Epic, so probably no Venge until next year if it happens.

Cmon spesh!!! Bring back the venge now!!!! Thanks for the info tho.


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[CAAD8FRED]

Getting an SL7 so not to keen on the 8, but come on. Tell us more...

Slightly lighter, slightly more aero (one-piece bar), and still holding true to the "one bike to rule them all" idea. Basically a refined SL7 and nothing drastically changing. I'd be surprised if new wheels drop with the SL8.

There's strong rumors that a new Venge is in the works to make use of the new UCI aero rules, but I don't have anything concrete with that. The SL8 has already been announced to dealers. The big Spesh launch this year is a new Epic, so probably no Venge until next year if it happens.

Will Geo between the 7 and 8 be the same?

[Roaringwaffle]

I think we see a slow return to aluminium bikes because both cost and environmental issues (AL is indeed much better than Carbon on that respect). It looks like a honest road bike for those who are interested in a more affordable road bike, not necessarily a "niche" bike like the Allez or a heavy duty bike like the CAAD

I think it's more like the return of steel around when we transitioned to alloy: i.e. hipsters.

Aluminium is cheaper and has seen a lot of improvement recently. I don't see why it should be limited to hipsters. A high-quality aluminium frame remains better than a cheap carbon. I will soon update my old carbon bike and I am considering AL as I want a fast, stiff bike and carbon is so expensive

Go back to 2006 and swap out the words 'aluminium' for 'steel'.

Things change, and bike prices have shot through the roof.

[cajer]

I think it's more like the return of steel around when we transitioned to alloy: i.e. hipsters.

Aluminium is cheaper and has seen a lot of improvement recently. I don't see why it should be limited to hipsters. A high-quality aluminium frame remains better than a cheap carbon. I will soon update my old carbon bike and I am considering AL as I want a fast, stiff bike and carbon is so expensive

Go back to 2006 and swap out the words 'aluminium' for 'steel'.

Things change, and bike prices have shot through the roof.

The manufacturing costs have little impact on actual bike pricing once you're above 1000$ ish bikes.

[StiffWeenies]

Getting an SL7 so not to keen on the 8, but come on. Tell us more...

Slightly lighter, slightly more aero (one-piece bar), and still holding true to the "one bike to rule them all" idea. Basically a refined SL7 and nothing drastically changing. I'd be surprised if new wheels drop with the SL8.

There's strong rumors that a new Venge is in the works to make use of the new UCI aero rules, but I don't have anything concrete with that. The SL8 has already been announced to dealers. The big Spesh launch this year is a new Epic, so probably no Venge until next year if it happens.

Any word if the BB is still BSA?

[tmrace]

Getting an SL7 so not to keen on the 8, but come on. Tell us more...

Slightly lighter, slightly more aero (one-piece bar), and still holding true to the "one bike to rule them all" idea. Basically a refined SL7 and nothing drastically changing. I'd be surprised if new wheels drop with the SL8.

There's strong rumors that a new Venge is in the works to make use of the new UCI aero rules, but I don't have anything concrete with that. The SL8 has already been announced to dealers. The big Spesh launch this year is a new Epic, so probably no Venge until next year if it happens.

New bar stem is only 1 watt more aero than the current two piece handlebar and stem. The main benefits will be looks and some weight savings.

[ichobi]

Is the frame shape still similar tho?


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[RDY]

Getting an SL7 so not to keen on the 8, but come on. Tell us more...

Slightly lighter, slightly more aero (one-piece bar), and still holding true to the "one bike to rule them all" idea. Basically a refined SL7 and nothing drastically changing. I'd be surprised if new wheels drop with the SL8.

There's strong rumors that a new Venge is in the works to make use of the new UCI aero rules, but I don't have anything concrete with that. The SL8 has already been announced to dealers. The big Spesh launch this year is a new Epic, so probably no Venge until next year if it happens.

None of my contacts with connections to Specialized have heard anything about a new Venge being released. I'm sure a load of CAD drawings exist, but whether they move ahead with any next year (this year no chance) is another matter. If the SL8 sells well, it's unlikely they'll do it for a good while.

[mrbrown4001]

Getting an SL7 so not to keen on the 8, but come on. Tell us more...

Slightly lighter, slightly more aero (one-piece bar), and still holding true to the "one bike to rule them all" idea. Basically a refined SL7 and nothing drastically changing. I'd be surprised if new wheels drop with the SL8.

There's strong rumors that a new Venge is in the works to make use of the new UCI aero rules, but I don't have anything concrete with that. The SL8 has already been announced to dealers. The big Spesh launch this year is a new Epic, so probably no Venge until next year if it happens.

None of my contacts with connections to Specialized have heard anything about a new Venge being released. I'm sure a load of CAD drawings exist, but whether they move ahead with any next year (this year no chance) is another matter. If the SL8 sells well, it's unlikely they'll do it for a good while.

I really don’t understand why they wouldn’t release a dedicated aero bike with the new UCI regs. More than any other brand they are so well prepared to build an aero bike because they have their own wind tunnel. It just doesn’t make sense to me.

The only reason that would make sense to me is if the SL8 has some huge aero gains that mean they wouldn’t be able to make anything faster.


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[RDY]

Getting an SL7 so not to keen on the 8, but come on. Tell us more...

Slightly lighter, slightly more aero (one-piece bar), and still holding true to the "one bike to rule them all" idea. Basically a refined SL7 and nothing drastically changing. I'd be surprised if new wheels drop with the SL8.

There's strong rumors that a new Venge is in the works to make use of the new UCI aero rules, but I don't have anything concrete with that. The SL8 has already been announced to dealers. The big Spesh launch this year is a new Epic, so probably no Venge until next year if it happens.

None of my contacts with connections to Specialized have heard anything about a new Venge being released. I'm sure a load of CAD drawings exist, but whether they move ahead with any next year (this year no chance) is another matter. If the SL8 sells well, it's unlikely they'll do it for a good while.

I really don’t understand why they wouldn’t release a dedicated aero bike with the new UCI regs. More than any other brand they are so well prepared to build an aero bike because they have their own wind tunnel. It just doesn’t make sense to me.

The only reason that would make sense to me is if the SL8 has some huge aero gains that mean they wouldn’t be able to make anything faster.


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The same reason they canned the Venge. Not because it was a bad seller, but because they thought they could sell just as many if not more SL7s without a Venge. They were right and it's more profitable.

Also, even if they think they'll sell shedloads initially (they probably would), will those sales be sustained in following model years? Aethos hasn't and must be very close to the chopping block.

They'll bring back a dedicated aero bike at some point, but soon after the SL8 launch (unless it flops), very unlikely.

[mrbrown4001]

Slightly lighter, slightly more aero (one-piece bar), and still holding true to the "one bike to rule them all" idea. Basically a refined SL7 and nothing drastically changing. I'd be surprised if new wheels drop with the SL8.

There's strong rumors that a new Venge is in the works to make use of the new UCI aero rules, but I don't have anything concrete with that. The SL8 has already been announced to dealers. The big Spesh launch this year is a new Epic, so probably no Venge until next year if it happens.

None of my contacts with connections to Specialized have heard anything about a new Venge being released. I'm sure a load of CAD drawings exist, but whether they move ahead with any next year (this year no chance) is another matter. If the SL8 sells well, it's unlikely they'll do it for a good while.

I really don’t understand why they wouldn’t release a dedicated aero bike with the new UCI regs. More than any other brand they are so well prepared to build an aero bike because they have their own wind tunnel. It just doesn’t make sense to me.

The only reason that would make sense to me is if the SL8 has some huge aero gains that mean they wouldn’t be able to make anything faster.


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The same reason they canned the Venge. Not because it was a bad seller, but because they thought they could sell just as many if not more SL7s without a Venge. They were right and it's more profitable.

Also, even if they think they'll sell shedloads initially (they probably would), will those sales be sustained in following model years? Aethos hasn't and must be very close to the chopping block.

They'll bring back a dedicated aero bike at some point, but soon after the SL8 launch (unless it flops), very unlikely.

#riderfirstengineering…..until we find a better way to make profits


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