Cannondale SuperSix Evo4

[StevieB]

The SSE4 has no modified geometry and I don't want a super long wheelbase 51cm&54cm frame at all ......

Opposite to me. It keeps me in Cannondale.
This geometry is so good for people with long back/arms for the height. The kind of people who feel comfortable with 100-120mm stem on size 44 or 48, or 110-130mm stem on size 51, 54 bike. This isn't uncommon for shorter riders.
I usually sit too far forward of the bike. This longer front center and more bb drop of smaller sizes put me back in balance between two wheels.
Front center is only 1-2cm longer than usual. It's not even as long as most gravel bike and all the mtb. So, it won't mess up people with average proportion too.
Maybe if you have very long legs, short torso and thus require short stem then I see why you'd like a more compact wheelbase.

+1 to this. Getting the right front/rear weight distribution's always been a challenge for me on small frames. Most bikes use common chainstay lengths (or nearly so) these days, and when the front gets pulled back in you lose too much weight off the rear. Makes it tough to get traction in extreme situations, so the rear spins on climbs in the wet when you're out of the saddle and is prone to locking under braking on descents.

[wickedstealthy]

The SSE4 has no modified geometry and I don't want a super long wheelbase 51cm&54cm frame at all ......

Opposite to me. It keeps me in Cannondale.
This geometry is so good for people with long back/arms for the height. The kind of people who feel comfortable with 100-120mm stem on size 44 or 48, or 110-130mm stem on size 51, 54 bike. This isn't uncommon for shorter riders.
I usually sit too far forward of the bike. This longer front center and more bb drop of smaller sizes put me back in balance between two wheels.
Front center is only 1-2cm longer than usual. It's not even as long as most gravel bike and all the mtb. So, it won't mess up people with average proportion too.
Maybe if you have very long legs, short torso and thus require short stem then I see why you'd like a more compact wheelbase.

+1 to this. Getting the right front/rear weight distribution's always been a challenge for me on small frames. Most bikes use common chainstay lengths (or nearly so) these days, and when the front gets pulled back in you lose too much weight off the rear. Makes it tough to get traction in extreme situations, so the rear spins on climbs in the wet when you're out of the saddle and is prone to locking under braking on descents.

Works perfectly for me as the reach/stack is average contrary to something like the SL7 or some others. Als the new Basso's work for me.
Im sitting far forward so a setback of 73.5+ straight seatpost works best without having to slam the saddle all the way forward.
And you gain front centre which allows me to avoid toe overalp on a 54. It basically has a similar geometry of the Colnago V3rs. Perfect bike for me...

[hannawald]

Some shots from the EF ones at UAE Tour...

it seems FSA rings work with Shimano 12 speed for them, good to know:)

[maxima]

Refer to photo per attachment

Weight of size 56 frameset

Lap71 770g
HM 810g
Nomral 915g

Photo attached somes total weight of module in size 54 HM with FSA 110/40cm integrated handlebar - full kit as per photo. Should be able to build up to 7kg easily

Which model should you get? Lap71 vs HM?

[robbosmans]

Ah yes that makes sense to weight the bike like that

[wickedstealthy]

Some shots from the EF ones at UAE Tour...

it seems FSA rings work with Shimano 12 speed for them, good to know:)

I ride the rotor rings already 4k km and had no issues. And that where even not the adapted rings (if they changed)

[maxima]

Ah yes that makes sense to weight the bike like that

weight for size 56 Frame Only as follows:-

Lap71 770g
HM 810g
Nomral 915g

[SimonWang]

Refer to photo per attachment

Weight of size 56 frameset

Lap71 770g
HM 810g
Nomral 915g

Photo attached somes total weight of module in size 54 HM with FSA 110/40cm integrated handlebar - full kit as per photo. Should be able to build up to 7kg easily

Which model should you get? Lap71 vs HM?

super light!!!!

[BenCousins]

Ah yes that makes sense to weight the bike like that

I can easily add 4 kg in my head for wheels, saddle, tires and groupset.

[C36]

So those are the aero bottles. Square to fit tubes width, seems to be made by Fabric (the top cap looks the same) that haven’t always been the most tira le to me (I parted few of the the rubber/silicon top part).
They clearly have a shape to lock them in position.

[Pottermouse]

Refer to photo per attachment

Weight of size 56 frameset

Lap71 770g
HM 810g
Nomral 915g

Photo attached somes total weight of module in size 54 HM with FSA 110/40cm integrated handlebar - full kit as per photo. Should be able to build up to 7kg easily

Which model should you get? Lap71 vs HM?

Do the framesets come with bars and seatpost?

[maxima]

comes with seat post, bottle cages and bottles from Cannondale. Integrated handlebar are optional/add-on you have to pay for it - if this is what you mean. I can try to send you 1 setup with Lap71, slammed all the way down stem, using conventional stem and handlebar. I can't send it until next few days.

[pmprego]

Is there any info on geometry? Any changes compared to previous model?

Nothing that will not be known in due time. Just curiosity.

[maxima]

Is there any info on geometry? Any changes compared to previous model?

Nothing that will not be known in due time. Just curiosity.

Was told geometries are exactly the same with 2021-2022 model. BB is threaded BSA as shown in photo. We should wait for official information in next few days.

[wickedstealthy]

Is there any info on geometry? Any changes compared to previous model?

Nothing that will not be known in due time. Just curiosity.

Nothing changed