I just got a JFOYH 11-36. Have yet to ride it. It's definitely very light.
New GRX this year?
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MicroSpline Road would only be needed for cassette with a 10t cog and up to a 32t cog, so who knows if we’ll actually see it or not. I don’t think Shimano should have ever bothered to release HG-EV…it’s pointless and no one else has adopted it.
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I see. So to use an XTR 10-51 cassette for 1x you would need the MSR freehub but also add a spacer behind the 51T cog. Or you could build up a new wheelset using a MTB hub with MS freehub, to create better spoke angles for a stronger wheel. And since someone said the GRX chainring sizes will carry over from 11-speed, I assume all 2x 12-speed cassettes will start with the 11T, hence no need for the MSR freehub.
While I get that a lot of people like to pedal very slowly, I'm having a hard time believing that 46/48x11 isn't a high enough gear, especially for off-road use. Lots of people have been using things like 11-42 cassettes with the existing GRX RDs to get lower gears for things like the Tour Divide, Transcontinental Race, etc.
Personally, I'd like to see *smaller* chainrings, not bigger - TA sell 44x28 to fit GRX, which is getting there. As for 10T cogs, fair enough if you want maximum range for 1x, but with 2x you just end up with a even more unusable top gear. I'd rather see 44x28 or 42x26 rings plus 11-42 or 11-44 12 speed cassettes, not 50x34 plus 10-21...
Personally, I'd like to see *smaller* chainrings, not bigger - TA sell 44x28 to fit GRX, which is getting there. As for 10T cogs, fair enough if you want maximum range for 1x, but with 2x you just end up with a even more unusable top gear. I'd rather see 44x28 or 42x26 rings plus 11-42 or 11-44 12 speed cassettes, not 50x34 plus 10-21...
Same setup here on my Warbirdwarthog101 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:39 pmThe 11 speed grx810 2x RD will clear a 36 easily. Have a sram 11-36 on the revolt now.FlatlandClimber wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:54 pmOkay, this is getting interesting. Also available from April 2023 or no date? Chain ring apparently staying the same, and 11-36 cassette. 31/36 is a very small gear, which is great.
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Or they could still have a wide range 10-xx cassette, but make the gap between chainrings smaller. This would improve front shifting and make the experience of front shifting more pleasant in general. I suspect a large part of the reason why 1x people complain about the "hassle" of front derailleurs is the massive gap between chainrings. Every single one of my bikes has had a front derailleur, so I have no issues knowing how to use one, but even I sometimes get annoyed by needing to up/downshift a million gears when switching rings on my 50/34.satanas wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:28 amWhile I get that a lot of people like to pedal very slowly, I'm having a hard time believing that 46/48x11 isn't a high enough gear, especially for off-road use. Lots of people have been using things like 11-42 cassettes with the existing GRX RDs to get lower gears for things like the Tour Divide, Transcontinental Race, etc.
Personally, I'd like to see *smaller* chainrings, not bigger - TA sell 44x28 to fit GRX, which is getting there. As for 10T cogs, fair enough if you want maximum range for 1x, but with 2x you just end up with a even more unusable top gear. I'd rather see 44x28 or 42x26 rings plus 11-42 or 11-44 12 speed cassettes, not 50x34 plus 10-21...
Personally this is one of the reasons why I'd like to see the return of triples, but that seems like a very unpopular opinion
I'd agree. My "race" set-up for chunky/loose/rowdy rides is 46/30 x 11-36. My "regular" flat gravel set-up is with 11-32 cassette. I don't believe I have ever used 46x11 combo on gravel; on road, I may have used it once or twice -- very rarely here in my hilly area. Of course, I no longer chase 50 MPH going downhill. hahasatanas wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:28 amWhile I get that a lot of people like to pedal very slowly, I'm having a hard time believing that 46/48x11 isn't a high enough gear, especially for off-road use. Lots of people have been using things like 11-42 cassettes with the existing GRX RDs to get lower gears for things like the Tour Divide, Transcontinental Race, etc.
Personally, I'd like to see *smaller* chainrings, not bigger - TA sell 44x28 to fit GRX, which is getting there. As for 10T cogs, fair enough if you want maximum range for 1x, but with 2x you just end up with a even more unusable top gear. I'd rather see 44x28 or 42x26 rings plus 11-42 or 11-44 12 speed cassettes, not 50x34 plus 10-21...
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I mean, don't all GRX RDs have clutches?
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So their will be 12s mechanical but only for grx?
Last I've heard (that was before official 105 announcement) 105 mechanical (hydro disc only) was scheduled for april 2023.
I didn't have any updates, but it looks like it is still possible.
If i will see any 105 mechanical spec bike listing in 2023/2024 catalogs I will post it here - viewtopic.php?t=169761
I didn't have any updates, but it looks like it is still possible.
If i will see any 105 mechanical spec bike listing in 2023/2024 catalogs I will post it here - viewtopic.php?t=169761
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Having run 44/30 & 10-36 11 speed I am looking forward to dumping the 10 asap. It's a pointless exercise. You can feel the extra friction on road and it's too high to use off-road.TobinHatesYou wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:35 amIt'll be interesting to see where they go with this. If they do indeed add MicroSpline Road, a 48/31x10-36t would have an absolutely massive range, like 557%
I'm looking forward to 48/31 or 46/30 & 11-36 12 speed.