1x Campagnolo Ekar drivetrain

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RDY
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by RDY

I'm not sure how they can make any Ekar WRL sales without destroying their SR WRL pricing model. Rival AXS 1x is about €800. Force AXS 1x a bit over 1k. I'd guess 1x GRX Di2 (12s) will land at €13-1400. If street price is above €1.5k, virtually nobody will consider it. Below €2.5k and it makes a mockery of their SR WRL pricing.

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Vespasianus
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by Vespasianus

Not sure where you can find a full Rival AXS groupset for 800 euro/$1000. I have both and honestly, EKAR just as good if not better.
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RDY
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Vespasianus wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:05 pm
Not sure where you can find a full Rival AXS groupset for 800 euro/$1000. I have both and honestly, EKAR just as good if not better.
It's generally not sold with chainset for 1x / XPLR. BD sell without for 820€ including 19% VAT. A few other places do with chainset for 900-940.

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https://www.bike24.com/p2821756.html

If you need any further confirmation of what Ekar is up against ... RX820 1x full gruppo for €750 including vat.

de lars cuevas
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by de lars cuevas

Hiya, strange problem here. Bit of play in the BB. Cranks are torqued according to spec.

After disassembly the bearing feel good. Looks as if the cups are wearing down and the save spring is eating into the cups.

Does that sound familiar to anyone? Cheers Lars

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by gorkypl

Is the BB width according to specs?

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de lars cuevas
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gorkypl wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 12:14 pm
Is the BB width according to specs?
Hiya. Must be. It's an Oem Canyon Grizl which I have been riding for two years now, and the play is new.

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de lars cuevas wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 12:06 pm
Hiya, strange problem here. Bit of play in the BB. Cranks are torqued according to spec.

After disassembly the bearing feel good. Looks as if the cups are wearing down and the save spring is eating into the cups.

Does that sound familiar to anyone? Cheers Lars
Do you have an Ekar specific BB? My coworker had the same problem, then realized that Ekar BB is made slightly different compared to standard Campagnolo BB (as Chorus/Record), I did saw that in person and it was as you described

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by de lars cuevas

@Berk: Thanks. Must be. OEM build, plus the bearings with the extra external seal fit in the cups.

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by rollinslow

I'm surprised we haven't seen Ekar WRL yet. I thought it would have been released by now. 13 speed and wireless would be superb just like the OG Ekar groupset is. Cost wise, yes Rival will win but Campy has never been purely for the cost conscious. It's an alternative with it's own design and aesthetic. I went 1x SRAM Red on my road/gravel/allroad build below because there was no Campy alternative for a 1x. I'm hopeful they release Ekar WRL but without sightings, maybe 2025 which is hard to believe.
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by Vespasianus

RDY wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:46 pm
https://www.bike24.com/p2821756.html

If you need any further confirmation of what Ekar is up against ... RX820 1x full gruppo for €750 including vat.
Shimano GRX, yuck. I had the last version on my diverge and it was nothing like EKAR. Di2 exists for a reason. Shimano mechanical is over-rated and junky stuff.
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by rollinslow

Vespasianus wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:56 pm
RDY wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:46 pm
https://www.bike24.com/p2821756.html

If you need any further confirmation of what Ekar is up against ... RX820 1x full gruppo for €750 including vat.
Shimano GRX, yuck. I had the last version on my diverge and it was nothing like EKAR. Di2 exists for a reason. Shimano mechanical is over-rated and junky stuff.
My issue with Shimano mech is that in cold weather the shifter lever will just throw and not catch. I assume the grease from the factory solidifies.
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by B0tt0mline

Any update on the electronic Ekar?
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I'll probably purchase it the moment it's available, but sadly have not heard anything.
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by octav

Anyone tried the EKAR GT? Is there any difference ? I can still see the old EKAR discount on europe sites with very good prices ( 800 euros the groupset )

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