Racey Boutique Gravel Frames?

[Requiem84]

Another interesting option could be the 'Tideace GR201' frame.

- UDH
- 50mm ckearance
- in frame storage box
- Cheap

A bit concerned about the quality / feel of the ride and customer service though?

Chinertown has a whole topic on it : https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,4724.75.html

Seems pretty solid.

Yeah, I have skimmed that topic and the few users that have the bike seem very positive about it. On the website of Tideace I cannot find the frame though?

[akira11]

I'm assuming it's this one: https://tideacebike.com/products/fm-gv2 ... 8324398263

[akira11]

gotta say i'm impressed with the value for money, frameset looks very cool!

shame the rear brake needs an adapter for 160mm, but overall it's very tempting

edit: geometry might be way too racy, it has a huge reach and hyper long top tube + slack seat tube... size 54 has a 570mm toptube!

[MarkoP]

Just built it up but super happy with it. Much lighter than I anticipated although I did swap the stem, seatpost and saddle from stock. Just need to set up tires tubeless and put on the Pathfinder Pros and cut the steerer but this is basically it. At 185 the size M is perfect and similar geo to my road bikes.

[spdntrxi]

Just built it up but super happy with it. Much lighter than I anticipated although I did swap the stem, seatpost and saddle from stock. Just need to set up tires tubeless and put on the Pathfinder Pros and cut the steerer but this is basically it. At 185 the size M is perfect and similar geo to my road bikes.

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looks nice.. what was the frame weight by chance

[twoangstroms]

Looks nice! That's a long stem for off-road, so I'll be curious about the ride report.

[MarkoP]

Just built it up but super happy with it. Much lighter than I anticipated although I did swap the stem, seatpost and saddle from stock. Just need to set up tires tubeless and put on the Pathfinder Pros and cut the steerer but this is basically it. At 185 the size M is perfect and similar geo to my road bikes.

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https://flic.kr/p/2qg5EnW

looks nice.. what was the frame weight by chance

According to Lauf for size M (and feels about right):

Seigla Medium frame, ready to paint, without parts = 1030g.
Seigla Medium frame, Obsidian Black, with seat-clamp, thick rubber chainstay protector and all bottle cage screws = 1163g.

[MarkoP]

Looks nice! That's a long stem for off-road, so I'll be curious about the ride report.

Lol yeah well my off road is probably different than most in this thread...I'm really going to be using this for a mix of road and light gravel (fire roads, trails etc. but nothing gnarly or single track.)

Also, it came with a short stem - looks to be about 90 and I only had this one lying around so between the two I went with the lighter 130. I'll ride it a bit and see but perhaps 120 will be better.

[akira11]

more ideas:

Spcycle SP-G068
47mm, UDH, T47 BB, direct mount 160mm brakes
for under 700€

[raisinberry777]

Basically a Canyon Grail copy. I've got one on the way, but copying a design (and slightly changing it) is hardly... boutique.

[Requiem84]

Basically a Canyon Grail copy. I've got one on the way, but copying a design (and slightly changing it) is hardly... boutique.

True, but it seems I'm pivoting a bit because there aren't any boutique frame (which meet my requirements) that I like enough. So it seems I'm also starting to consider an alternative route: budget solution.

The Grail copy doesn't work for me as it does not fit 2.1 tires. So I'm mostly thinking about the Tideace GV 201 now. 750€ for a frame with UDH, internal storage and 50mm clearance is a bargain. Could built that bike for 2500-3000€.

It's either going to be that, or the Backroad FF with red 13....

[spdntrxi]

Basically a Canyon Grail copy. I've got one on the way, but copying a design (and slightly changing it) is hardly... boutique.

I think we have thrown the "boutique" out the window with the bikes being suggusted

[akira11]

that's because the so called boutique brands need to step up their game

for example festka: obsolete gravel frames and expensive as hell

[spdntrxi]

that's because the so called boutique brands need to step up their game

for example festka: obsolete gravel frames and expensive as hell

no disagreement there.. I only have 42mm clearance on my Parlee Z0XD.

[CampagYOLO]

that's because the so called boutique brands need to step up their game

for example festka: obsolete gravel frames and expensive as hell

To be fair to the boutique manufacturers, the MTB tyre trend which has been around the last few months has taken all manufacturers by surprise. Look at Trek, the Checkmate appears to be basically obsolete as soon as it was released.

Big tyres will always compromise geometry to a degree so they can fit in a frame. It appears that until recently "racy" meant having a similar position to the road and taking aerodynamics into account, both things that big tyres affect.

It takes years for a bike to get from the drawing board to the market and I bet all the manufacturers are busy designing racy gravel bikes with larger clearances right now. Who knows what will be the current gravel trends in 2027?