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Tiforlife
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by Tiforlife

Sadly because the SL frameset is coming in a mechanical 105 option it has the cable/wire exit port on the top of the chainstay in the same place as the old Emonda, which leads to a (IMHO) DI2: looking like a compromised afterthought stuck on a frame that wasn't designed for it. I assume this won't be the case on SLR thanks to spec choices but I've always thought it looked bad on the Emonda and I'm disappointed they haven't come up with a more elegant solution.

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by spdntrxi

cleanneon98 wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2024 3:47 pm
spdntrxi wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2024 3:44 pm
cleanneon98 wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2024 3:34 pm
hoho9043 wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2024 7:07 am
The High-end frame is made by QTC(questcomposite)in Dongguan city, China.
The low model(non-slr) version is made by XDS in Shenzhen city, China.
I don't know anything behind the scenes for manufacturing so I really want to know why does this matter? I've seen people mention it before and was curious to learn more
layup and QC matter.
So is Quest then better? I'm not familiar with either of them. Isnt the layup determined by the manufacturer and not the factory
maybe they have a better track record with Trek.. who knows. There are a million things that make a mfg get the contract.
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Lbert
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by Lbert

Do you know the geometry for size S?
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Lbert
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by Lbert

Lbert wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2024 12:46 am
Trek claimed that this gen8 is as light as Emonda, and as fast as Madone. In this case, it would quite similar with the SSE4, which has same aero result with gen7 in tour mag which is 207 watt, and pretty light as well. One thing to note is that the SSE4 was using 2 piece bar&stem instead of one piece.
Just hoping they won't increase the price so much.

Fisherfreerider
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by Fisherfreerider

hoho9043 wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2024 7:07 am
The High-end frame is made by QTC(questcomposite)in Dongguan city, China.
The low model(non-slr) version is made by XDS in Shenzhen city, China.
Quest Composites that build Trek and Canyon is in Taiwan.

spartan
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by spartan

so does anyone have the US MSRP on a madone slr 8 frameset + seatpost ?

the dogma introduced today is frameset and seat post start at $6,950.
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TobinHatesYou
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by TobinHatesYou

Fisherfreerider wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2024 4:25 pm

Quest Composites that build Trek and Canyon is in Taiwan.

Quest has no factories in Taiwan.
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by proffate

TobinHatesYou wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2024 10:15 pm
Fisherfreerider wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2024 4:25 pm

Quest Composites that build Trek and Canyon is in Taiwan.

Quest has no factories in Taiwan.
Well they claim to.

"The company was established in 2007. In response to the rapid development of business, two subsidiaries were established in 2012 and 2015. The company strictly manages its operations, and the entire production process has passed ISO9000, TS16949 and Japan SG certification to ensure product quality . Our company has been using Dongguan, China as its main production base for many years. Due to the impact of the US-China trade war on the bicycle industry chain and the impact on the group's layout, for the sake of long-term development, we are also optimistic about the future use of carbon fiber composite materials in industrial parts, medical equipment, automobiles, and sports. and other application prospects, so the group invested more than 2.3 billion yuan to build a new high-end carbon fiber cloth smart factory, bicycle parts production and logistics center in Fengyuan, Taichung.
Most of the customers are well-known European and American brands, such as TREK, CANYON, WILSON, PORSCHE, LAMBORGHINI, BMW, AUDI, JAGUAR, RAYBAN, STEELCASE, MOTION, etc. We welcome aspiring elites to join us and work together to create a brighter future!"

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by BigBoyND

TobinHatesYou wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2024 10:15 pm
Fisherfreerider wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2024 4:25 pm

Quest Composites that build Trek and Canyon is in Taiwan.

Quest has no factories in Taiwan.
It does. They have multiple sites, as do most of the other carbon frame manufacturers.

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by TobinHatesYou

BigBoyND wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 5:26 am

It does. They have multiple sites, as do most of the other carbon frame manufacturers.

My information is only out of date by half a year. Apparently they JUST spun up their Taichung facility at the end of 2023.

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by jfranci3

TobinHatesYou wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:56 am
BigBoyND wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 5:26 am

It does. They have multiple sites, as do most of the other carbon frame manufacturers.

My information is only out of date by half a year. Apparently they JUST spun up their Taichung facility at the end of 2023.
Says 2007 here, but it might depend on how you define 'china'
https://www.questcomposite.com/en/abouts/milestones
They list two CN factories, so I'm guessing they spun those up seperately. Maybe what you saw were a listing of 'bike' factoreies, and they just moved bicycle parts to these facilities lately. They do less complex items like luggage also, seems like you'd want to break in a few facility with lower performance, flatter items.
I've seen some of the heavier frames (Checkpoint) coming out of Vietnam, so that appears to the be the frontier for them.

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by TobinHatesYou

jfranci3 wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 3:33 pm
TobinHatesYou wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:56 am
BigBoyND wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 5:26 am

It does. They have multiple sites, as do most of the other carbon frame manufacturers.

My information is only out of date by half a year. Apparently they JUST spun up their Taichung facility at the end of 2023.
Says 2007 here, but it might depend on how you define 'china'
https://www.questcomposite.com/en/abouts/milestones
They list two CN factories, so I'm guessing they spun those up seperately. Maybe what you saw were a listing of 'bike' factoreies, and they just moved bicycle parts to these facilities lately. They do less complex items like luggage also, seems like you'd want to break in a few facility with lower performance, flatter items.
I've seen some of the heavier frames (Checkpoint) coming out of Vietnam, so that appears to the be the frontier for them.

I think you’ve completely misinterpreted multiple posts/replies.

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by wozzo

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by spdntrxi

like

looks like they are slotted.. should fit many a bike.

preorder on one site end of august :noidea: :smartass: I'll just wait till local dealer has them.
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cleanneon98
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by cleanneon98

I'll wait for someone else to test fit them to a Gen 7 but they look good. Not sure they they will fit at the BB area on the Gen 7 seeing as it's got a flat edge
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