Hot ti bikes from Italy

[wheelsONfire]

These are darn hot bikes from Italian Tred

Upper is Stinger

The mid is Aracnide EVO and the lower Falcon RAC

https://performance.tootengineering.com ... l-lT3Xyg2M

https://performance.tootengineering.com/hyperbikes/

https://performance.tootengineering.com/manubri/

[RDY]

They have an improbably large range and just pictures (renders). There doesn't seem to be any suggestion that most of them exist in the wild. It looks like they're design studies and the track stuff and new handlebars are the real business. Said handlebars look interesting. Though Speeco just launched a new made to measure aero bar which if you want something custom is probably a better choice. But I don't think any of these companies will offer a true made to measure aero bar in carbon for a few years yet, so for now it's Steel / Ti (Toot) or Alu (Speeco). If the stock Toot carbon one fits your requirements it should be good, but personally I wouldn't go back to a metal bar - even Ti feels harsh vs carbon bars IMO.

[CustomMetal]

Crank in the bottom one is Sturdy's

[matcav]

They're legit and having operations in Rome, and Montichiari (home of the Olympic team velodrome).

They're cool bikes, mostly mtm and custom builds.

They've been around for a while. On Italian classified you can find some of their older models for sale: https://www.subito.it/annunci-italia/ve ... q=aracnide

[apr46]

There are enough photos of their bikes with riders to convince me they are real, though I guess you can do a lot with AI these days. https://www.instagram.com/p/CnuhtWTs9mH/

Their track bikes certainly seem like the major business though vs. road.

[RDY]

They clearly exist and make things, but how real all those new style influenced-by-track-bikes road, TT and gravel designs are or will ever be is another matter. There aren't any photos of one being ridden, or in the flesh and outdoors. They have loads of photos of their track stuff and old road though.

[adrockwe]

These bikes do absolutely nothing for me....they're a bit of a hot mess.

[apr46]

They clearly exist and make things, but how real all those new style influenced-by-track-bikes road, TT and gravel designs are or will ever be is another matter. There aren't any photos of one being ridden, or in the flesh and outdoors. They have loads of photos of their track stuff and old road though.

I feel weird posting people's personal instagrams here but they do exist. There are plenty of photos of the rider in this blurry image on his personal instagram with a bike that has gears that looks exactly like this. https://www.instagram.com/p/CnuhtWTs9mH ... BiNWFlZA==

[RDY]

They clearly exist and make things, but how real all those new style influenced-by-track-bikes road, TT and gravel designs are or will ever be is another matter. There aren't any photos of one being ridden, or in the flesh and outdoors. They have loads of photos of their track stuff and old road though.

I feel weird posting people's personal instagrams here but they do exist. There are plenty of photos of the rider in this blurry image on his personal instagram with a bike that has gears that looks exactly like this. https://www.instagram.com/p/CnuhtWTs9mH ... BiNWFlZA==

That's not one of the new designs with fat aero tubing, 3D printing and clearly influenced by their latest track bikes. If you've not looked at their website, they have a load of off and on road stuff which looks wildly different.

[apr46]

It has the flared aero rear end though. The aero front with the deep HT seems mostly like a track bike model for now, but i still think its really unfair to a custom bike company to claim their products are vaporware when they have photos of most of their features on bikes with riders even if they dont yet have the specific bike you are looking at with a rider photo.

[RDY]

They seem to have taken it down or the website isn't working now, but there were ~5 different road and gravel bikes on the "hyper bike" link in the first post which were also orderable on their site. They were very different.

[Juanmoretime]

I can't say they do much for me. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Now my Litespeed T3 disc still works well in my eye.

[wheelsONfire]

I can't say they do much for me. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Now my Litespeed T3 disc still works well in my eye.

Aren't you old school, like Aracnide platform
https://performance.tootengineering.com/en/legacy-x/

I like Stinger, but the Aracnide platfrom might look more classical. Ofcourse some of the later work framesets are very particular in their design.
But for sure they push the limit more than any other i have seen so far. And before i hear of Sturdy again, yes i know of Sturdy

I also believe Tred had dropped seatstays before the big brands had this design.

This wasn't really a great look for a Litespeed.