Most reliable TPU tube?
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I've given up on the Ride Now TPU tubes after finding repeated QC issues, as noted in another thread here recently.
Before retreating to latex, I'm curious to know if there is another TPU brand that most everyone has found reliable - at least out of the box.
Before retreating to latex, I'm curious to know if there is another TPU brand that most everyone has found reliable - at least out of the box.
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Pirelli ones are reliable but aren't that quick in testing and are expensive. I was given some for free but would rather use latex TBH
I'm using Revoloop and really satisfied.
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Interesting. I've riden thousands of miles on Ride Now tubes and have yet to have a single puncture or any QC issues, and that includes a week riding recently on Gran Canaria which has some truly terrible broken, gravel strewn road surfaces.BikeEatSleepRepeat wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:59 pmI've given up on the Ride Now TPU tubes after finding repeated QC issues, as noted in another thread here recently.
Before retreating to latex, I'm curious to know if there is another TPU brand that most everyone has found reliable - at least out of the box.
I'm sold on TPU tubes in general as a lighter, easier alternative to tubeless. My setup with Conti GP 5000 tyres is significantly lighter than Conti GP 5000 TR tyres + sealant, is much less mess and hassle, and so far bullet proof for punctures.
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Latex rolls faster. On balance it's a better option.exige wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 2:28 pmInteresting. I've riden thousands of miles on Ride Now tubes and have yet to have a single puncture or any QC issues, and that includes a week riding recently on Gran Canaria which has some truly terrible broken, gravel strewn road surfaces.BikeEatSleepRepeat wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:59 pmI've given up on the Ride Now TPU tubes after finding repeated QC issues, as noted in another thread here recently.
Before retreating to latex, I'm curious to know if there is another TPU brand that most everyone has found reliable - at least out of the box.
I'm sold on TPU tubes in general as a lighter, easier alternative to tubeless. My setup with Conti GP 5000 tyres is significantly lighter than Conti GP 5000 TR tyres + sealant, is much less mess and hassle, and so far bullet proof for punctures.
I'm convinced that TPU is a bad material for tubes. It's not flexible enough, causes these issues:
- you can't inflate outside of the tire
- the valve stems are prone to cracking under the stress of being pumped by mini-pumps
- the valve/valve stem interface is prone to leakage because the metal valve is screwing into hard plastic
Even expensive options suffer from these limitations.
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I rode latex for many years, but actually prefer the ride feel of TPU as it isn't as muted -- and for me they indeed roll faster.BenCousins wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 2:35 pmLatex rolls faster. On balance it's a better option.exige wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 2:28 pmInteresting. I've riden thousands of miles on Ride Now tubes and have yet to have a single puncture or any QC issues, and that includes a week riding recently on Gran Canaria which has some truly terrible broken, gravel strewn road surfaces.BikeEatSleepRepeat wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:59 pmI've given up on the Ride Now TPU tubes after finding repeated QC issues, as noted in another thread here recently.
Before retreating to latex, I'm curious to know if there is another TPU brand that most everyone has found reliable - at least out of the box.
I'm sold on TPU tubes in general as a lighter, easier alternative to tubeless. My setup with Conti GP 5000 tyres is significantly lighter than Conti GP 5000 TR tyres + sealant, is much less mess and hassle, and so far bullet proof for punctures.
I'm convinced that TPU is a bad material for tubes. It's not flexible enough, causes these issues:
- you can't inflate outside of the tire
- the valve stems are prone to cracking under the stress of being pumped by mini-pumps
- the valve/valve stem interface is prone to leakage because the metal valve is screwing into hard plastic
Even expensive options suffer from these limitations.
Several downsides as you mentioned, though, and in my and many others experience the Ride Now (and others) can have horrible QC out of the box.
Pirelli here. Got I guess about 3k kms on a set on carbon wheel set and no problems so far.
As an aside. I kinda have had enough with latex because of how they drop pressure to zero from full when they go flat ... genuinely instantly.
Always seem to get away with it and it's been on flat zones when it's happened but I really wouldn't want latex letting go on an alpine pass.. you could really have a nasty situation.
YMMV .... for background I have used 4s Pirelli for the last 3yrs or so usually 28mm size. total mileage beyond 70k kms.. I dump the rear tires as soon as they square off slightly so typically rear tire will get less than 3k km before it's rejected. That seems to be optimum wear point to avoid flats entirely. Always rotate new tire to front and front that's seen use goes to the rear.
Between tpu and latex yeah tpu feels quicker and does away with the fear of latex and its sudden failure when it does flat.
As an aside. I kinda have had enough with latex because of how they drop pressure to zero from full when they go flat ... genuinely instantly.
Always seem to get away with it and it's been on flat zones when it's happened but I really wouldn't want latex letting go on an alpine pass.. you could really have a nasty situation.
YMMV .... for background I have used 4s Pirelli for the last 3yrs or so usually 28mm size. total mileage beyond 70k kms.. I dump the rear tires as soon as they square off slightly so typically rear tire will get less than 3k km before it's rejected. That seems to be optimum wear point to avoid flats entirely. Always rotate new tire to front and front that's seen use goes to the rear.
Between tpu and latex yeah tpu feels quicker and does away with the fear of latex and its sudden failure when it does flat.
Ah, but what's the name of this site? In my neo-definition, weight weenie-ing means weight budgeting. What trade-offs are you willing to pay to save weight? What benefits are you willing to pay for by carrying extra weight? Per BikeTubes.com, a tire size 25-28 mm, valve length 51 mm, Vittoria latex tube is 85 g. A Pirelli TPU tube tire size 23-32 mm is 35 g (that may be for the 40 mm valve, I use a longer valve at 39 g if I reember correctly). Is the 100 g delta to the latex tubes worth it? As to cost, TPU tubes are the most cost efficient weight-saving parts I know.
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my sample size maybe limited, but most of my clients customers are on magene. all of them had no issues with it.
Magene has some reinforced areas and it seemed at least on paper, much more robust than ridenow.
But it's not like I have a lot of issues with TPU either. The Vittoria TPUs gave me significantly more headache with their leaky valves. The Vittoria Latex has shit tons of issues with their QC as well. (I had to warranty a whole box with leaky valve joints)
I still much prefer latex, but lately their QC issues has made me shifted to TPUs.
That being said though, I have been testing the 30mm GP5k on wide rims and the with the TPUs installed they still felt SMOOTH AF. Totally different from running TPUs with 25mm/28mms, which felt incredibly harsh to ride.
Magene has some reinforced areas and it seemed at least on paper, much more robust than ridenow.
But it's not like I have a lot of issues with TPU either. The Vittoria TPUs gave me significantly more headache with their leaky valves. The Vittoria Latex has shit tons of issues with their QC as well. (I had to warranty a whole box with leaky valve joints)
I still much prefer latex, but lately their QC issues has made me shifted to TPUs.
That being said though, I have been testing the 30mm GP5k on wide rims and the with the TPUs installed they still felt SMOOTH AF. Totally different from running TPUs with 25mm/28mms, which felt incredibly harsh to ride.
I have the ridenow on 1 bike zero issues,vittoria ultra light on another bike zero issues.
I must admit that the vittoria are better quality than the ridenow.
I must admit that the vittoria are better quality than the ridenow.
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