2024 Shimano di2 dual control lever 0MX2 on fcc (ST-R9370, ST-RX825, .., ?)

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by ooo

New shimano "Dual Control Lever" added to fcc listing 2023/12/08 with 180 day confidential request
It is "dual control lever" and it looks like STI
It is connected to BT-DN300 battery
It is using DC 3.0 V battery
Model: 0MX2 (WY7-0MX2, 8117A-0MX2)
Firmware version: 0MX2 4.15.229.11
In one of the documents product specs includes text "STR9270_CR" (page 4 of 8 in second pdf),
not sure if it something new (grx) or refresh (dura-ace)
we will see more external images on 2024/06/08
https://fcc.report/FCC-ID/WY7-0MX2/6976152.pdf
https://fcc.report/FCC-ID/WY7-0MX2/6976150.pdf
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by robertbb

Wonder if it's related to this (from back in October this year, on the Di2 thread):
ultimobici wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:10 am
Alfus wrote:So.....what about the R9370??
Behave!


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by Ritxis

Also in a recent patent you can see a rear derailleur with removable battery and connection port for an internal battery in the frame.

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ooh, interesting, FCC didn't send me an email this time - odd!

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Ritxis wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:01 am
Also in a recent patent you can see a rear derailleur with removable battery and connection port for an internal battery in the frame.
Super cool. I wonder if this explains the delay in 12s GRX Di2 as well. Maybe they got around certain patents by providing an option for fully wireless or semi wireless.

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It definitely does. It makes no sense to have a centrally located internal battery when the only device connected to it would be a rear derailleur.

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TobinHatesYou wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 7:59 am
It definitely does. It makes no sense to have a centrally located internal battery when the only device connected to it would be a rear derailleur.
My guess:
- 1x with battery at RD derived from next gen MTB (makes sense as most MTB frames do not have storage for a central battery anymore)
- 2x with connector for central battery derived from 105/UT
- 1x with connector for eMTB/eGravel bikes only

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by Upcountry

I too am betting is has something to do with Srams patent on removable batteries mounted to the derailleurs... By having a wired port in addition to a battery, perhaps it gets around that. I'm still using AXS on the mountain bikes, but the second they offer a 12 speed fully wireless setup I'm all in, heck, I'm probably in even if there is a wire mixed in there somewhere...

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by Alfus

New groupset no, but new wheels....😏

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by ooo

Schematic of electronics in this dual control lever (not complete bicycle part, just electronics) can be found in labeling info:

labeling info for this new 2024 dual control lever:
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labeling info for st-r9270/st-r8170 dual control lever and reference pictures:
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by robertbb

Alfus wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:00 pm
New groupset no, but new wheels....😏
You are catagorically the most cryptic poster on WW.... :lol:

So much mystery

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by Alfus

henau212 wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:57 am
TobinHatesYou wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 7:59 am
It definitely does. It makes no sense to have a centrally located internal battery when the only device connected to it would be a rear derailleur.
My guess:
- 1x with battery at RD derived from next gen MTB (makes sense as most MTB frames do not have storage for a central battery anymore)
- 2x with connector for central battery derived from 105/UT
- 1x with connector for eMTB/eGravel bikes only
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by ibrownochs

Alfus wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:00 pm
New groupset no, but new wheels....😏
Could this be a potential spring release?

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by Ritxis

ibrownochs wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:49 pm
Alfus wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:00 pm
New groupset no, but new wheels....😏
Could this be a potential spring release?
GRX Di2 12 speed???

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by ibrownochs

Ritxis wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:35 pm
ibrownochs wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:49 pm
Alfus wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:00 pm
New groupset no, but new wheels....😏
Could this be a potential spring release?
GRX Di2 12 speed???
New wheels? Referencing Alfus post.

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