Where is new SRAM Red?

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RoadDonk82
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by RoadDonk82

the mounted rear cassette looks to be somewhere around 46t.
Yeah, it looks like 46-38-32 so probably the full one is: 10, 11, 12, 13, 15, 17, 19, 21, 24, 28, 32, 38, 46 as 12 cog was the biggest gap among the remaining ones in 10-44 cassette (38-32 is even bigger not to mention 46-38 if that's the new one but it seems the small cogs are the priority for SRAM).

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by mikehhhhhhh

trackflack wrote:
Fri May 31, 2024 2:48 pm
mikehhhhhhh wrote:
Thu May 30, 2024 9:06 pm
13 speed spotted at Unbound

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/sram ... und-gravel

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13 speed might be enough to convince me to go 1x
It's certainly enough to make me consider a do it all gravel/winter bike.

I saw a picture of what looked like a Crux with a UDH Red RD on, so hopefully a new one is coming. Bonus points if they add mud guards like the Roubaix

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by toxin

There is a shimano patent for a fully wireless 2x13 group

mathias720
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by mathias720

did anyone try the Newer Red levers with hope calipers?
have pair laying around for my old force group, but just got hands on a set of the new red coming instead,
wondering if the hope are still lighter (dont think so with new red design) (did anyone actually weigh the calipers so we can compare)
and do the hope calipers work better than the new red calipers

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by OtterSpace

mathias720 wrote:
Fri May 31, 2024 4:45 pm
did anyone try the Newer Red levers with hope calipers?
have pair laying around for my old force group, but just got hands on a set of the new red coming instead,
wondering if the hope are still lighter (dont think so with new red design) (did anyone actually weigh the calipers so we can compare)
and do the hope calipers work better than the new red calipers
This is very much new territory and usually I would expect that no one has. However, I saw a bike posted on reddit bikeporn that had hope RX4+ with Red E1. People were roasting him over the calipers so he said he was going to swap to E1. Might be worth reaching out to him there.

I have not seen E1 caliper weights let alone drained calipers without pads etc. I would love to see it along with a disassembled caliper to check the bolts that connect the two halves for feasability of swapping to Ti but I doubt this will come anytime soon. You could be the person to check and let us know :thumbup:

At this point it is unknown how much of the E1 braking improvement is from the ST and how much from the Caliper. If I had to guess I would say 90%+ comes from the ST going with a more Shimano like piston config, a bigger piston, whatever they are doing with the linkage to the levers, and the levers shape impact on usability.

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by trackflack

bobones wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2023 6:34 am
BigBoyND wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2023 6:04 am
And more reliable FD shifting.
I would change that to easier FD setup because FD shifting is reliable when it's been set up right. I actually think they've achieved that anyway with the new Force FD and chainset: quick and easy to set up and not a hint of a drop IME.
And 16t front ring jump.
No thanks. I'm very happy with AXS ratios providing smoother transitions at front and requiring fewer compensation shifts.
And longer battery life.
Eh? Battery life is not and has never been an issue. Charging only takes an hour and can be easily done off the bike. You can carry a spare if you're paranoid, but it's not necessary. It's less of a burden than charging your head unit. Having a failover system where you can swap batteries if the RD goes flat is a reassurance you don't get with Di2. BTW, since I beagin running eTap in 2017, I've only had a flat RD once and that was in my first month of ownership when I hadn't quite got it yet.
Other than everything, it's perfect already. 😅
It's actually pretty damned close :mrgreen:

I would like to see compatibility with existing AXS maintained, improved pad clearance, buttons on hoods, weight savings, gold chains :D
Sram is definitely leading the way with new tech

trackflack
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by trackflack

Having buttons for my garmin unit on shifters that don't cost £1300 is probably all that's holding me back. Maybe once there's some trickle down I'll make the shift

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by Ronin416

Anyone experience the loose fitting Red hoods that YT Peak Torque has in his recent review?


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by henau212

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izy
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by izy

trackflack wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2024 1:58 pm
Having buttons for my garmin unit on shifters that don't cost £1300 is probably all that's holding me back. Maybe once there's some trickle down I'll make the shift
garmin and the sram app had a recent update you can now controll the page shifting using blips etc or for me on 1x the double tap setting

KuB3
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by KuB3

izy wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2024 7:15 pm
trackflack wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2024 1:58 pm
Having buttons for my garmin unit on shifters that don't cost £1300 is probably all that's holding me back. Maybe once there's some trickle down I'll make the shift
garmin and the sram app had a recent update you can now controll the page shifting using blips etc or for me on 1x the double tap setting
How do you find a way to control with the double tap?
I can see the possibility with the blips buttons on the app, but not with the double tap

windsurfingodie
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by windsurfingodie

I'm ordering a new set of levers but the reach seems longer from the pistons going lateral instead of horizontal than the previous AXS. Buying a shorter stem aero cockpit would be expensive to change if that was the case. Can anyone compare the two and how noticeable is the difference

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by spdntrxi

windsurfingodie wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2024 6:51 pm
I'm ordering a new set of levers but the reach seems longer from the pistons going lateral instead of horizontal than the previous AXS. Buying a shorter stem aero cockpit would be expensive to change if that was the case. Can anyone compare the two and how noticeable is the difference
seems to be 5-6mm by people that have measured it.
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by ArtV

Just ordered some new 165mm cranks. Being short, we'll see if replacing my 170mm cranks will be an improvement.

Did a 103 mile ride with 9400 feet of climbing on Saturday. As you can imagaine, there was a LOT of front shifting and the new Red FD was perfect. I found the auto-trim feature interesting.

gospastic
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by gospastic

Got some weights on new shifters/calipers compared to old:

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Including pads
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