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The recently released D2 Force AXS shifters are NOT backwards compatible with 11spd Red etap. I emailed SRAM customer care to confirm. So I doubt the next gen Red AXS shifters will be backwards compatible with 11spd etap components.
Source video below. At 1:17. You can see him measure external width to be 4.89mm which is about 4.9mm (Ekar chain width).TobinHatesYou wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 6:10 pmThe T-Type chain is 5mm wide just like the road flattop chain. The Ekar chain is 4.9mm.
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So... no new Red in TdF 23?
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It is pretty odd that the most outdate SRAM groupset is RED. With Force/Rival/Apex all updated we have RED showing its age.
Moots Vamoots RSL (2019)-Super Record 12
Cervelo S1 (2010)-Super Record 12
Kestrel RT700 (2008)-Dura Ace 9000
Mosaic GT-1 (2020)-SRAM Red viewtopic.php?f=10&t=174523
Cervelo S1 (2010)-Super Record 12
Kestrel RT700 (2008)-Dura Ace 9000
Mosaic GT-1 (2020)-SRAM Red viewtopic.php?f=10&t=174523
Don't see why you care with comments like this:rollinslow wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:54 pmIt is pretty odd that the most outdate SRAM groupset is RED. With Force/Rival/Apex all updated we have RED showing its age.
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I must be old. I'm perfectly happy with my Red eTap. Shifts great, battery life is fine and I like the looks. Brakes stop very well too!
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No jokes allowed right? Good to know you follow my posts, sign-up for my instagram too please.bobones wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:00 pmDon't see why you care with comments like this:rollinslow wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:54 pmIt is pretty odd that the most outdate SRAM groupset is RED. With Force/Rival/Apex all updated we have RED showing its age.
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=172809&start=375#p1810654
Moots Vamoots RSL (2019)-Super Record 12
Cervelo S1 (2010)-Super Record 12
Kestrel RT700 (2008)-Dura Ace 9000
Mosaic GT-1 (2020)-SRAM Red viewtopic.php?f=10&t=174523
Cervelo S1 (2010)-Super Record 12
Kestrel RT700 (2008)-Dura Ace 9000
Mosaic GT-1 (2020)-SRAM Red viewtopic.php?f=10&t=174523
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It's an old groupset and will be updated imminently.Juanmoretime wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:32 pmI must be old. I'm perfectly happy with my Red eTap. Shifts great, battery life is fine and I like the looks. Brakes stop very well too!
Moots Vamoots RSL (2019)-Super Record 12
Cervelo S1 (2010)-Super Record 12
Kestrel RT700 (2008)-Dura Ace 9000
Mosaic GT-1 (2020)-SRAM Red viewtopic.php?f=10&t=174523
Cervelo S1 (2010)-Super Record 12
Kestrel RT700 (2008)-Dura Ace 9000
Mosaic GT-1 (2020)-SRAM Red viewtopic.php?f=10&t=174523
I just have a good memory for posts from the anti-SRAM bigots around here. That was a joke too BTW.rollinslow wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:25 pmNo jokes allowed right? Good to know you follow my posts, sign-up for my instagram too please.
I think he's talking about the even older 11-speed Red eTap. The Force update was mainly cosmetic with no new innovation. Maybe they're waiting to unleash a real game changer. Anything less is going to be a damp squib after all this time.rollinslow wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:27 pmIt's an old groupset and will be updated imminently.Juanmoretime wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:32 pmI must be old. I'm perfectly happy with my Red eTap. Shifts great, battery life is fine and I like the looks. Brakes stop very well too!
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Where's the moderator?bobones wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:35 pmI just have a good memory for posts from the anti-SRAM bigots around here. That was a joke too BTW.rollinslow wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:25 pmNo jokes allowed right? Good to know you follow my posts, sign-up for my instagram too please.
Moots Vamoots RSL (2019)-Super Record 12
Cervelo S1 (2010)-Super Record 12
Kestrel RT700 (2008)-Dura Ace 9000
Mosaic GT-1 (2020)-SRAM Red viewtopic.php?f=10&t=174523
Cervelo S1 (2010)-Super Record 12
Kestrel RT700 (2008)-Dura Ace 9000
Mosaic GT-1 (2020)-SRAM Red viewtopic.php?f=10&t=174523
I don't see it as feasible for them to go to TdF WITH jumbo visma and going with the outdated hoods. Thus, vingegaard for instance is already using the force style hoods.rollinslow wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:54 pmIt is pretty odd that the most outdate SRAM groupset is RED. With Force/Rival/Apex all updated we have RED showing its age.
Shimano sold dura ACE 11s while force and red 12s without any penalty, even pros(non sponsored teams) preferred 11s Shimano over axs 12s.bobones wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:44 pmI think he's talking about the even older 11-speed Red eTap. The Force update was mainly cosmetic with no new innovation. Maybe they're waiting to unleash a real game changer. Anything less is going to be a damp squib after all this time.rollinslow wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:27 pmIt's an old groupset and will be updated imminently.Juanmoretime wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:32 pmI must be old. I'm perfectly happy with my Red eTap. Shifts great, battery life is fine and I like the looks. Brakes stop very well too!
Not many people will be worried about "old" or "new" red, it's still top of the range groupset
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