Ritxis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:51 pm
ParisCarbon wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:30 pm
Ritxis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:11 pm
ParisCarbon wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:03 pm
I wouldnt specifically say a sensor, but on the cyclingnews website on the launch date, there was a blurb that mentioned the old cassettes were not recommended due to the arc of the rear derailleur... Id suspect the possibly the wireless is finicky on knowing the chainrings (I don't know) and the arc the FD takes... I dunno I didnt design the stuff, and am only assuming stuff off what cyclingnews stated...
What do you want Campagnolo to say...don't Shimano and Sram also say similar things??? and then all kinds of mixes are made......
I wouldnt specifically say a sensor, but on the cyclingnews website on the launch date, there was a blurb that mentioned the old cassettes were not recommended due to the arc of the rear derailleur... Id suspect the possibly the wireless is finicky on knowing the chainrings (I don't know) and the arc the FD takes... I dunno I didnt design the stuff, and am only assuming stuff off what cyclingnews stated...
Right and any kind of "mixes made" as you said also void your warranty... there's people with pull on here that have said that before who I trust and deal with regularly... and whos to say the number of chain drops and mechanicals lately in pro races isn't because of the "mixes being made" the more techy this stuff gets, the more finicky this stuff gets....
warranty? what problem could there be? How would the brand know if you used one thing or another........I've been involved in this bike business (not professionally) since I was 16-17 years old (I'm almost 55) I don't consider myself very smart.... but I do not see certain "ghosts" in certain matters of material that it seems that you see some
I've written extensively at various times both on this forum and elsewhere, about why any maker would deny warranty on combinations of components that they haven't tested in-house.
I wrote it some time ago but if you look here, you can see an article I wrote:
http://pimpmytoolbox.blogspot.com/2016/
It's important to remember that warranty isn't just about "I was JRA and my rear mech exploded" ... it can be about "I can get a smooth upshift but not a smooth downshift", or, "however I set my FD up, the chain either throws over the big chainring, or doesn't upshift" ... and so on.
Liability can also be important - we had a case where a customer had a tyre part company with a Bora One DB. He fell and was extensively injured and his bike was badly damaged. It transpired he'd set up the non-tubeless compatible rim, as tubeless, against the recommendations made. His "mates" had all said - "it'll be fine". It wasn't.
Often on 11 & 12s systems we can look at the back of a big chainring where front shifting is compromised and say "yes, third party chain" because we can see scuff marks where a Campagnolo chain (say) doesn't leave scuff marks ...
Most warranty managers know exactly what they are looking for, in any given set of circumstances. We have a whole world of experience to draw on from the SCs in every country and within Campagnolo (and I know it is the same to some extent in other brands, too) we all exchange information and best practice. Most of us are in touch with other brands warranty managers and in some cases, have worked in warranty or some other capacity for more than one brand ...
A Tech-Reps work is never done ...
Head Tech, Campagnolo main UK ASC
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