Weight Weenies

BigBoyND wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 21, 2023 5:11 am

blaugrana wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:22 pm

I thought the same thing. Canyon is still often referred as a great value option, but it's nothing like it used to be....Now it seems that anything slightly below Specialized prices can be considered cheap.

Canyon Ultimate CFR Red eTap with 353 NSW wheels: 11,000€

Specialized SL7 Red eTap with Roval wheels: 14,500€

It's 3,500€ less and comes with more expensive wheels. That's over 30% price difference. Not sure why you would say that's only slightly less.

StiffWeenies wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 21, 2023 4:03 pm

BigBoyND wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 21, 2023 5:11 am

blaugrana wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:22 pm

I thought the same thing. Canyon is still often referred as a great value option, but it's nothing like it used to be....Now it seems that anything slightly below Specialized prices can be considered cheap.

Canyon Ultimate CFR Red eTap with 353 NSW wheels: 11,000€

Specialized SL7 Red eTap with Roval wheels: 14,500€

It's 3,500€ less and comes with more expensive wheels. That's over 30% price difference. Not sure why you would say that's only slightly less.

Van Rysel RCR in Pro layup, Red AXS w/ PM & 454 NSW: 8,500€

StiffWeenies wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 21, 2023 4:03 pm

BigBoyND wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 21, 2023 5:11 am

blaugrana wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:22 pm

I thought the same thing. Canyon is still often referred as a great value option, but it's nothing like it used to be....Now it seems that anything slightly below Specialized prices can be considered cheap.

Canyon Ultimate CFR Red eTap with 353 NSW wheels: 11,000€

Specialized SL7 Red eTap with Roval wheels: 14,500€

It's 3,500€ less and comes with more expensive wheels. That's over 30% price difference. Not sure why you would say that's only slightly less.

Van Rysel RCR in Pro layup, Red AXS w/ PM & 454 NSW: 8,500€

CyclistFromQuebec wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 21, 2023 6:46 pm

It'd be nice to get weight infos on these bikes, and if they're coming any time soon to Quebec/Canada... We usually have products a year late when we're not lucky

Erlandal wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 12:31 am

CyclistFromQuebec wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 21, 2023 6:46 pm

It'd be nice to get weight infos on these bikes, and if they're coming any time soon to Quebec/Canada... We usually have products a year late when we're not lucky

All without pedals and in size M:

RCR Rival: 7.6kg with Zipp 303S
RCR Force: 7.4kg with Zipp 404 Firecrest
RCR Pro Ultegra Di2: 7.6kg with Shimano Ultegra C36

FCR Ultegra Di2: 8.06kg with Mavic SL65

StiffWeenies wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:57 am

Erlandal wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 12:31 am

CyclistFromQuebec wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 21, 2023 6:46 pm

It'd be nice to get weight infos on these bikes, and if they're coming any time soon to Quebec/Canada... We usually have products a year late when we're not lucky

All without pedals and in size M:

RCR Rival: 7.6kg with Zipp 303S
RCR Force: 7.4kg with Zipp 404 Firecrest
RCR Pro Ultegra Di2: 7.6kg with Shimano Ultegra C36

FCR Ultegra Di2: 8.06kg with Mavic SL65

Thanks for the info!

If you have access, could you please list the weights and details of the following?
Pro one-piece cockpit (what sizes are offered? Deda spacer shape?)
Pro layup frame & fork (painted Size M)
Classic layup frame & fork (painted Size M)
Seatpost (same unit shared between Classic & Pro? or different?)

Erlandal wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:47 am

StiffWeenies wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:57 am

Erlandal wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 12:31 am

CyclistFromQuebec wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 21, 2023 6:46 pm

It'd be nice to get weight infos on these bikes, and if they're coming any time soon to Quebec/Canada... We usually have products a year late when we're not lucky

All without pedals and in size M:

RCR Rival: 7.6kg with Zipp 303S
RCR Force: 7.4kg with Zipp 404 Firecrest
RCR Pro Ultegra Di2: 7.6kg with Shimano Ultegra C36

FCR Ultegra Di2: 8.06kg with Mavic SL65

Thanks for the info!

If you have access, could you please list the weights and details of the following?
Pro one-piece cockpit (what sizes are offered? Deda spacer shape?)
Pro layup frame & fork (painted Size M)
Classic layup frame & fork (painted Size M)
Seatpost (same unit shared between Classic & Pro? or different?)

Classic layout: 830g
Pro layout: 790g
All forks: 380g
All seatposts: 225g
All bikes come with a Deda Superbox stem and Deda Superhero RS handlebars.

StiffWeenies wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:57 am

Erlandal wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:47 am

StiffWeenies wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:57 am

Erlandal wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 12:31 am

All without pedals and in size M:

RCR Rival: 7.6kg with Zipp 303S
RCR Force: 7.4kg with Zipp 404 Firecrest
RCR Pro Ultegra Di2: 7.6kg with Shimano Ultegra C36

FCR Ultegra Di2: 8.06kg with Mavic SL65

Thanks for the info!

If you have access, could you please list the weights and details of the following?
Pro one-piece cockpit (what sizes are offered? Deda spacer shape?)
Pro layup frame & fork (painted Size M)
Classic layup frame & fork (painted Size M)
Seatpost (same unit shared between Classic & Pro? or different?)

Classic layout: 830g
Pro layout: 790g
All forks: 380g
All seatposts: 225g
All bikes come with a Deda Superbox stem and Deda Superhero RS handlebars.

Thank you!

Classic is the way to go then since the fork and seatpost are shared, not every brand makes lighter forks and seatposts to pair with their Tier 1 frames unfortunately. But 790g is a pleasant surprise over the original 810g quoted weight at Velofollies. Do you know if the FCR also shares that 225g seatpost?

I do wish they kept this cockpit though

robbosmans wrote:The RCR does look way nicer imo

mrbrown4001 wrote:

robbosmans wrote:The RCR does look way nicer imo

I like the rear end of the RVR and the front end of the FCR. For me it’s really hard to tell which (if any) bike is supposed to be the more aero focused frame.


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alanyu wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:10 am

Frame and fork weights are good, but the seatpost is too heavy.