Van Rysel 2023

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slovenianbp
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KarlGLS wrote:
Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:26 pm
At first glance I thought it was a SL7
I looked at the picture and then my seka exceed, the rear is almost identical. However seka head tube noticably taller and fork integrates better. Top tube on rysel appears skinnier. I guess venge frame was a role model for all three designs.

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Is there info on what BB standard the bikes have?

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Xabi wrote:
Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:56 pm
alanyu wrote:
Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:10 am
Frame and fork weights are good, but the seatpost is too heavy.
Darimo can probably fix that issue.
Only if there is enough interest to warrant the effort of making the mold. And based on other threads, it can take quite some time for enough requests to come in.
It also remains to be seen if the RCR and the other models with the same seatpost are popular enough with the special kind of owners that share your interest in a lighter bike and are willing to fork out the necessary extra cash

evangreen
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by evangreen

Have they still not released the FCR?

Or did they sell out in a few days?

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evangreen wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 3:10 pm
Have they still not released the FCR?

Or did they sell out in a few days?
I think they sold out literally within hours. I checked on release day and it was all showing sold out.

mrbrown4001
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Will there be a separate release date for the US? I can’t seem to find any mention of this bike in the US decathlon site.


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currentsea wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 3:45 pm
evangreen wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 3:10 pm
Have they still not released the FCR?

Or did they sell out in a few days?
I think they sold out literally within hours. I checked on release day and it was all showing sold out.
Still not released yet.

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by garbageman

mrbrown4001 wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:45 pm
Will there be a separate release date for the US? I can’t seem to find any mention of this bike in the US decathlon site.


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It seems the bikes will not be available directly through Decathlon in the US.
"The bikes will be available through Decathlon in Europe, while in the US, Van Rysel is establishing a dealer network." (source: https://www.bikeradar.com/news/sea-otte ... vel-bikes/)
"...and we're very proud to introduce our new entry into the US market. We've made a concerted effort to build premium bikes that we can sell into bike shops." (source: https://youtu.be/BREWYHCYz8g?t=20 )

I think this distribution/sales model really hurts the value proposition. The pricing for the RCR with Force is not that compelling to me at $7k (vs EUR 4700 in Europe). That comes in below a similarly-equipped SL7 or new SSE Hi-Mod, but more than a Cervelo Soloist ($6800), Supersix Evo 1 (non hi-mod with force, $6500), or Canyon Aeroad CF SLX ($6k).

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garbageman wrote:
mrbrown4001 wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:45 pm
Will there be a separate release date for the US? I can’t seem to find any mention of this bike in the US decathlon site.


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It seems the bikes will not be available directly through Decathlon in the US.
"The bikes will be available through Decathlon in Europe, while in the US, Van Rysel is establishing a dealer network." (source: https://www.bikeradar.com/news/sea-otte ... vel-bikes/)
"...and we're very proud to introduce our new entry into the US market. We've made a concerted effort to build premium bikes that we can sell into bike shops." (source: https://youtu.be/BREWYHCYz8g?t=20 )

I think this distribution/sales model really hurts the value proposition. The pricing for the RCR with Force is not that compelling to me at $7k (vs EUR 4700 in Europe). That comes in below a similarly-equipped SL7 or new SSE Hi-Mod, but more than a Cervelo Soloist ($6800), Supersix Evo 1 (non hi-mod with force, $6500), or Canyon Aeroad CF SLX ($6k).
At the current exchange rate today 4700 euros is $5160.07. How on earth is Van Rysel going to justify $7k for a build? I’t would be cheaper to buy a complete bike in Europe and have it shipped. Even if there are cheaper builds I’m not buying that bike based on principle now.

If anyone from Van Rysel is listening please don’t come to the US with a ridiculous up charge this brand has no reputation here so there are plants of other bikes that I would rather buy at that price point. I was very excited to buy this bike but not anymore. I had so much hope for Van Rysel but not if this is true!!


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Did you ever look the other way around? US companies do the same in the EU.
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Leon wrote:
Wed Apr 26, 2023 6:51 am
Did you ever look the other way around? US companies do the same in the EU.
Most of the difference is usually because EU prices include VAT, though, which is around an extra 20%.

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Leon wrote:
Wed Apr 26, 2023 6:51 am
Did you ever look the other way around? US companies do the same in the EU.
Don't you know, the one nation under God is USA :shock: :lol:
So they don't need to know anything of the outside world.
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wheelsONfire wrote:
Leon wrote:
Wed Apr 26, 2023 6:51 am
Did you ever look the other way around? US companies do the same in the EU.
Don't you know, the one nation under God is USA :shock: :lol:
So they don't need to know anything of the outside world.
Apparently the USA is the world. We’re just the trimmings.


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ultimobici wrote:
Wed Apr 26, 2023 12:40 pm
wheelsONfire wrote:
Leon wrote:
Wed Apr 26, 2023 6:51 am
Did you ever look the other way around? US companies do the same in the EU.
Don't you know, the one nation under God is USA :shock: :lol:
So they don't need to know anything of the outside world.
Apparently the USA is the world. We’re just the trimmings.


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Sadly to many over there seem to think so :lol:
Bikes:

Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2019.01.03)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)


Ex bike; Vial EVO D, Vial EVO Ultra, Scott Foil, Paduano ti bike.

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by evangreen

Erlandal wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:16 pm
currentsea wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 3:45 pm
evangreen wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 3:10 pm
Have they still not released the FCR?

Or did they sell out in a few days?
I think they sold out literally within hours. I checked on release day and it was all showing sold out.
Still not released yet.
Thanks!
Do you know when the release will be?

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