Specialized S-Works Tarmac SL8

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Jz91
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by Jz91

Do you guys think the new tarmac will have the same cables in plain sight under the stem??

That would be a massive let down

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eric01
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by eric01

cajer wrote:
Minirac wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:47 pm
spartacus wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:47 pm
Yet again the cockpit sizes are a joke, why is anyone buying these at any price? lol. Until they come out with 120-140/36 they are fking up.
They are not buying in to that narrow gimmick youtube trend. And they have tons of pro data.
Just becuase they have the data doesn't mean they are doing anything with it. Remember the aero is everything era from spesh? Now they don't even have an aero road bike nor a competitive TT bike. This is not a company that is engineering or data first.
You’re right. They are money first. They’ll make and market products that sell. Including sizes. I’m sure they ran the numbers about the costs vs estimated sales.
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TobinHatesYou
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by TobinHatesYou

Minirac wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:47 pm

They are not buying in to that narrow gimmick youtube trend. And they have tons of pro data.

Just because you don’t like something doesn’t make it a gimmick. More and more pros are doing it every race. It’s a big enough difference to measure outdoors with the Chung Method. As long as you’re remotely fit and and can hold the position, horns/hoods turned in is faster.

https://www.aero-coach.co.uk/uci-road-b ... rodynamics

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Kurt1980
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by Kurt1980

TobinHatesYou wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2023 5:31 am
Minirac wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:47 pm

They are not buying in to that narrow gimmick youtube trend. And they have tons of pro data.

Just because you don’t like something doesn’t make it a gimmick. More and more pros are doing it every race. It’s a big enough difference to measure outdoors with the Chung Method. As long as you’re remotely fit and and can hold the position, horns/hoods turned in is faster.

https://www.aero-coach.co.uk/uci-road-b ... rodynamics
Agreed. They had a real opportunity here to produce an "affordable" light, stiff and really aero one piece. Narrow at the hoods with a decent flare to the drops would have put them head and shoulders above the competition. Instead they've joined the ranks of Deda, Vision etc with a decent but not amazing product. Bummer really.

MilesG813
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by MilesG813

Feener wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:41 pm
MilesG813 wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2023 11:16 am
cajer wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:09 am
New bars dropped.

https://bikerumor.com/all-new-roval-rap ... one-piece/
aaaannnnnddddddd they're gone. I'm sorry this line is for bank customers only. Seriously they sold out of all the racey sizes in like 2 hours. I was contemplating sucking it up and getting a 120x400 vs the 115x380 I wanted and I blinked and that was gone too, lol.
There are still 120x400 in uk stores. If that is where you are. Conceptstore
While I was tempted by your information they refuse to ship outside UK. Thanks though, I guess I will hold out for the 115x380.
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Karvalo
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by Karvalo

pmprego wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2023 3:13 pm
robeambro wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2023 2:31 pm
pmprego wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2023 12:32 pm
MilesG813 wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2023 11:16 am


aaaannnnnddddddd they're gone. I'm sorry this line is for bank customers only. Seriously they sold out of all the racey sizes in like 2 hours. I was contemplating sucking it up and getting a 120x400 vs the 115x380 I wanted and I blinked and that was gone too, lol.
This indicates one thing and one thing only: the price is low. They should raise prices to control demand.
or maybe it indicated another thing and another thing only: they only had very limited quantities.
At the speed they sold out... Price was low. Would they have placed it a quarter higher, would they have not sold out? Don't know.
They're not pricing it to sell the first drop only though, are they? They're pricing it to continue selling across the lifespan of the product, after the shiny brand new bling effect has worn off.

pmprego
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by pmprego

Karvalo wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2023 8:47 pm
pmprego wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2023 3:13 pm
robeambro wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2023 2:31 pm
pmprego wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2023 12:32 pm


This indicates one thing and one thing only: the price is low. They should raise prices to control demand.
or maybe it indicated another thing and another thing only: they only had very limited quantities.
At the speed they sold out... Price was low. Would they have placed it a quarter higher, would they have not sold out? Don't know.
They're not pricing it to sell the first drop only though, are they? They're pricing it to continue selling across the lifespan of the product, after the shiny brand new bling effect has worn off.
That's why there are discounts. But if products are sold out, that is a sign of a NOT overpriced product.

GlacialPace
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by GlacialPace

Kurt1980 wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2023 9:10 am
TobinHatesYou wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2023 5:31 am
Minirac wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:47 pm

They are not buying in to that narrow gimmick youtube trend. And they have tons of pro data.

Just because you don’t like something doesn’t make it a gimmick. More and more pros are doing it every race. It’s a big enough difference to measure outdoors with the Chung Method. As long as you’re remotely fit and and can hold the position, horns/hoods turned in is faster.

https://www.aero-coach.co.uk/uci-road-b ... rodynamics
Agreed. They had a real opportunity here to produce an "affordable" light, stiff and really aero one piece. Narrow at the hoods with a decent flare to the drops would have put them head and shoulders above the competition. Instead they've joined the ranks of Deda, Vision etc with a decent but not amazing product. Bummer really.
Who even sells something like that? The enve ses handlebar is so bloody expensive, but there is nothing else out there that is aero shaped and has similar dimensions is there?

Agree, this could have been a real win for specialised but as it is I am not particularly interested.

justkeepedaling
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by justkeepedaling

GlacialPace wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2023 9:50 pm
Kurt1980 wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2023 9:10 am
TobinHatesYou wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2023 5:31 am
Minirac wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:47 pm

They are not buying in to that narrow gimmick youtube trend. And they have tons of pro data.

Just because you don’t like something doesn’t make it a gimmick. More and more pros are doing it every race. It’s a big enough difference to measure outdoors with the Chung Method. As long as you’re remotely fit and and can hold the position, horns/hoods turned in is faster.

https://www.aero-coach.co.uk/uci-road-b ... rodynamics
Agreed. They had a real opportunity here to produce an "affordable" light, stiff and really aero one piece. Narrow at the hoods with a decent flare to the drops would have put them head and shoulders above the competition. Instead they've joined the ranks of Deda, Vision etc with a decent but not amazing product. Bummer really.
Who even sells something like that? The enve ses handlebar is so bloody expensive, but there is nothing else out there that is aero shaped and has similar dimensions is there?

Agree, this could have been a real win for specialised but as it is I am not particularly interested.
Black Inc. I have one but haven't tried it yet, but they flare the drops

GlacialPace
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by GlacialPace

The black Inc does look good but less flare than the enve and significantly more cost than the specialized.

If the specialized had a decent amount of flare then I wouldn't even be considering the exs aerover.

toxin
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by toxin

GlacialPace wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2023 9:50 pm
Kurt1980 wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2023 9:10 am
TobinHatesYou wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2023 5:31 am
Minirac wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:47 pm

They are not buying in to that narrow gimmick youtube trend. And they have tons of pro data.

Just because you don’t like something doesn’t make it a gimmick. More and more pros are doing it every race. It’s a big enough difference to measure outdoors with the Chung Method. As long as you’re remotely fit and and can hold the position, horns/hoods turned in is faster.

https://www.aero-coach.co.uk/uci-road-b ... rodynamics
Agreed. They had a real opportunity here to produce an "affordable" light, stiff and really aero one piece. Narrow at the hoods with a decent flare to the drops would have put them head and shoulders above the competition. Instead they've joined the ranks of Deda, Vision etc with a decent but not amazing product. Bummer really.
Who even sells something like that? The enve ses handlebar is so bloody expensive, but there is nothing else out there that is aero shaped and has similar dimensions is there?

Agree, this could have been a real win for specialised but as it is I am not particularly interested.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/295174517628?h ... SwLTVjAvk0

Enve-esque geometry, but possibly questionable source

GlacialPace
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by GlacialPace

Significantly more flare than enve. An extra 2cm, and like you say, questionable source.

spartacus
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by spartacus

Two piece that's the right size is better than one piece that's the wrong size imo

Sanders2177
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by Sanders2177

I have ordered a 120X400 to be honest it's going on my bike because it looks the dogs bollocks 😁. These bars will be bought for aesthetic if ppl are really honest with themselves.
plus I can get her down to 6.30kg.
Should be delivered tomorrow only down size is I need to wait for the SL7 transition spacer to come into stock as these are need plus FYI the stems stack is 41mm and the SL7 stem is 30mm I think.
S Works SL8 54cm 5.94kgs
Winspace SLC M Ultegra R8150 no idea of kgs

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Sanders2177
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by Sanders2177

Plus
This company
https://www.racewaredirect.co/
Plan on making spacers in the next few weeks.
Info from the SL7 thread
S Works SL8 54cm 5.94kgs
Winspace SLC M Ultegra R8150 no idea of kgs

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