Bike tools for home mechanic
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225g with 4mm allen (3-10Nm with 1Nm increments)
129g with 4mm allen (4-6Nm with 2Nm increments)
Both of these are working great.Bikes:
Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2019.01.03)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Ex bike; Vial EVO D, Vial EVO Ultra, Scott Foil, Paduano ti bike.
Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2019.01.03)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Ex bike; Vial EVO D, Vial EVO Ultra, Scott Foil, Paduano ti bike.
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I was thinking, why even get allen keys when one could get a wide array of PB Swiss bits for use with a ratchet or with a torque wrench. Seems far more versatile except for the time it gets putting the right bit together with the ratchet/wrench. I get that a bike mechanic would want the tools at their disposal for direct use but a home mechanic who tinkers with their bike should get away with high quality bits I reckon?
You could do that, but Allen keys are (or can be, at least) cheap, and they are the most used tools on bicycles. Also, it's not uncommon to find bolts at awkward positions were some ratchets won't fit. And I'm pretty sure that anyone considering buying anything PB Swiss already has at least a set of Allen keys anyway.London9921 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:25 amI was thinking, why even get allen keys when one could get a wide array of PB Swiss bits for use with a ratchet or with a torque wrench. Seems far more versatile except for the time it gets putting the right bit together with the ratchet/wrench. I get that a bike mechanic would want the tools at their disposal for direct use but a home mechanic who tinkers with their bike should get away with high quality bits I reckon?
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You're absolutely right about most PB owners likely owning Allen keys already.blaugrana wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:33 pmYou could do that, but Allen keys are (or can be, at least) cheap, and they are the most used tools on bicycles. Also, it's not uncommon to find bolts at awkward positions were some ratchets won't fit. And I'm pretty sure that anyone considering buying anything PB Swiss already has at least a set of Allen keys anyway.London9921 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:25 amI was thinking, why even get allen keys when one could get a wide array of PB Swiss bits for use with a ratchet or with a torque wrench. Seems far more versatile except for the time it gets putting the right bit together with the ratchet/wrench. I get that a bike mechanic would want the tools at their disposal for direct use but a home mechanic who tinkers with their bike should get away with high quality bits I reckon?
My interest in cycling has taken me from noob to relatively enlightened in a short time, so in my case I so far only own wonky commercial bike tools and Bosch bits (seemingly good quality but probably not as precise as PB Swiss or Wera etc) the bits that came with my torque wrench are obviously crap as I've slightly damaged one thru axle during frequent bike trainer installation.
My reflection is that almost every bolt on my bike(s) have got specific torque settings. Allen keys wouldn't give me torque feedback as a dedicated torque wrench does. I occasionally change wheelsets depending on surface and have to adjust the brake calipers and in that case I agree with you, a wrench or multi tool doesn't allow tuning the bolts in a good way. An extender for my wrench solves it, and an Allen key even more practical in that application aside from not nailing the torque (on carbon frames and forks). That's why I'm kind of thinking torque wrench for 90% of the home tinkering powered by high quality bits would do the job. I'll probably ditch my old multi tool and get the PB 470 for the road.
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I'm confused. Do you use the wax in place of tools?robertbb wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 8:55 am+1Campyforever wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:26 amThis is what you want, if you can afford it: https://www.effettomariposa.eu/en-us
EDIT: Nevermind I didn't notice they also sell tools. Sorry.
Argonaut RM3 | Pivot Trail 429
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I bought the ProBikeTool torque wrench from Amazon. It broke some time later. Contacted them for warranty. No response. Don't recommend just based on that.
Argonaut RM3 | Pivot Trail 429
Like one listed above? I was considering it, since it will be handy for snowboarding and I like T-handle.
His: Orbea Orca OMX
Hers: Cannondale Synapse HM Disc
Hers: Cannondale Synapse HM Disc
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What do you guys use for removal and installation off bearings for bottom bracket? Looking for a new solid tool.
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Enduro BRT 002 + BRT 016MrRolandos wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 10:20 amWhat do you guys use for removal and installation off bearings for bottom bracket? Looking for a new solid tool.
https://cycling.endurobearings.com/prod ... aring-tool
https://cycling.endurobearings.com/coll ... or-brt-002
Bikes:
Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2019.01.03)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Ex bike; Vial EVO D, Vial EVO Ultra, Scott Foil, Paduano ti bike.
Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2019.01.03)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Ex bike; Vial EVO D, Vial EVO Ultra, Scott Foil, Paduano ti bike.
I wouldn’t buy an overpriced version of a bearing press. You would be much better served with a cheaper and more versatile version that support more bb standards like this https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002104572465.htmlwheelsONfire wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 4:23 amEnduro BRT 002 + BRT 016MrRolandos wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 10:20 amWhat do you guys use for removal and installation off bearings for bottom bracket? Looking for a new solid tool.
https://cycling.endurobearings.com/prod ... aring-tool
https://cycling.endurobearings.com/coll ... or-brt-002
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Well, i don't need so many standards. I bought what was currently among the best when i bought my first Ax bike.bmrk wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 2:21 pmI wouldn’t buy an overpriced version of a bearing press. You would be much better served with a cheaper and more versatile version that support more bb standards like this https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002104572465.htmlwheelsONfire wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 4:23 amEnduro BRT 002 + BRT 016MrRolandos wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 10:20 amWhat do you guys use for removal and installation off bearings for bottom bracket? Looking for a new solid tool.
https://cycling.endurobearings.com/prod ... aring-tool
https://cycling.endurobearings.com/coll ... or-brt-002
You know Ax bikes have direct press, so there's no "housing". You press two bearings right into the bearing seats of the frame.
Like 30*42*7 or as now, with DUB, 29*42*7.
Bikes:
Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2019.01.03)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Ex bike; Vial EVO D, Vial EVO Ultra, Scott Foil, Paduano ti bike.
Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2019.01.03)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Ex bike; Vial EVO D, Vial EVO Ultra, Scott Foil, Paduano ti bike.
It was my opinion on the topic, i don't disagree with you If i knew that i wouldn’t need anything else and had the spare money i would happily buy the best available or very specifc tool.wheelsONfire wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 4:12 pmWell, i don't need so many standards. I bought what was currently among the best when i bought my first Ax bike.bmrk wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 2:21 pmI wouldn’t buy an overpriced version of a bearing press. You would be much better served with a cheaper and more versatile version that support more bb standards like this https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002104572465.htmlwheelsONfire wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 4:23 amEnduro BRT 002 + BRT 016MrRolandos wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 10:20 amWhat do you guys use for removal and installation off bearings for bottom bracket? Looking for a new solid tool.
https://cycling.endurobearings.com/prod ... aring-tool
https://cycling.endurobearings.com/coll ... or-brt-002
You know Ax bikes have direct press, so there's no "housing". You press two bearings right into the bearing seats of the frame.
Like 30*42*7 or as now, with DUB, 29*42*7.
I had bikes with different bb pressfit standards, so i lean towards the more versatile tool.
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I think I much prefer a set like this : https://wheelsmfg.com/presses-tools/bea ... o-kit.html
I currently have the Ali version, its not too bad. But the attachements u use on the push bar are mehh... The ring snapped, so now I am looking for more quality.
I currently have the Ali version, its not too bad. But the attachements u use on the push bar are mehh... The ring snapped, so now I am looking for more quality.
The O-ring is definitely an expendable part yes. I still didn’t had any issues with them, but i am glad they are easy to replace if needed.MrRolandos wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 10:09 amI think I much prefer a set like this : https://wheelsmfg.com/presses-tools/bea ... o-kit.html
I currently have the Ali version, its not too bad. But the attachements u use on the push bar are mehh... The ring snapped, so now I am looking for more quality.
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