Totally agree, what a boring looking bike compared to the 795 Blade. Honestly the only reason why Look is still an interesting brand, is thanks to their bold designs. We don't need another French version of the boring Orbea story
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Describe the what's and how's of a still bicycle looking boring, or even how 'boring' describes an inamimate object.Yoln wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 3:18 pmTotally agree, what a boring looking bike compared to the 795 Blade. Honestly the only reason why Look is still an interesting brand, is thanks to their bold designs. We don't need another French version of the boring Orbea story
Perhaps you're just over-yolked?
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Looks are subjective...
I think the 795 Blade RS looks like a photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy of Madone SLR. Some of its design cues are just a little bit "off."
I think this new prototype looks clean. Distinctive? No. More pleasing to look at than the Blade RS? Yes.
I think the 795 Blade RS looks like a photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy of Madone SLR. Some of its design cues are just a little bit "off."
I think this new prototype looks clean. Distinctive? No. More pleasing to look at than the Blade RS? Yes.
Let's agree in disagree! 2016's Madone marks what's probably the image of that "photocopy" you referring to.TobinHatesYou wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 11:20 pmLooks are subjective...
I think the 795 Blade RS looks like a photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy of Madone SLR. Some of its design cues are just a little bit "off."
I think this new prototype looks clean. Distinctive? No. More pleasing to look at than the Blade RS? Yes.
Nonetheless, Madone's down tube was always a bit disproportioned (at least in my opinion) and
It's design shape resembles nothing to do with the 795.
The same goes to the ugly bit of iso decoupler and the brake bridges which are world apart from the clean looking Look by comparison.
If you look at both 50 meters away from you, yes! They can be mistaken by one another simply because of how chainstays are designed, and the Aero seattube, but looking closely at both they are worlds apart and quoting an adage: "god is in the details".
Anyway, if you feel that the 795 is a photocopy of a photocopy, I can't really understand your opinion on the new Look bike, since it resembles any other modern bike, and this time... it's not even necessary to be 50 meters away from it. Just park it next to another dropped chainstay bike and is hard to tel which is which!
Look importer for my country think that it was a photoshop montage with a rear end of a Willier Filante... so go figure!
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I think you missed the point. I said the Blade RS was a crude facsimile of a Madone. It looks different, but in all the wrong ways. I quite like the dropped stay silhouette on modern bikes. Most of them don't look "wrong" to me aside from a few who dare to be different like the Oltre RC. One bike I like is the Lapierre Xelius SL. It's too bad I can't really order one here, and if I imported it from Europe, warranty service might be a pain in the ass. Plus it uses BB86...meh.naavt wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 12:57 am
Anyway, if you feel that the 795 is a photocopy of a photocopy, I can't really understand your opinion on the new Look bike, since it resembles any other modern bike, and this time... it's not even necessary to be 50 meters away from it. Just park it next to another dropped chainstay bike and is hard to tel which is which!
Look importer for my country think that it was a photoshop montage with a rear end of a Willier Filante... so go figure!
The irony here is none of the bikes I've bought since 2017 have dropped stays.
Get it. We both have different takes about the 795 which is healthy. If everybody only liked red... Aircode was a bike that I also evaluated. Nice bike.TobinHatesYou wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 5:04 am
I think you missed the point. I said the Blade RS was a crude facsimile of a Madone. It looks different, but in all the wrong ways. I quite like the dropped stay silhouette on modern bikes. Most of them don't look "wrong" to me aside from a few who dare to be different like the Oltre RC. One bike I like is the Lapierre Xelius SL. It's too bad I can't really order one here, and if I imported it from Europe, warranty service might be a pain in the ass. Plus it uses BB86...meh.
The irony here is none of the bikes I've bought since 2017 have dropped stays.
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I remember when 795 was first seen. I think it was one of the coolest bike i'd ever had seen.
I still think it looks awesome. I can agree the new /forthcoming bike looks quite anonymous in compairson.
It's probably lighter and less complex, which might actually be what people like better.
It seems more bikes were more all in towards aero a few years ago. Now it's rerouted towards a mix of aero and light weight.
It had been more reasonable if bikes actually developed from light weight, to half-breeds and ended up as full bodied aero machines.
I still think it looks awesome. I can agree the new /forthcoming bike looks quite anonymous in compairson.
It's probably lighter and less complex, which might actually be what people like better.
It seems more bikes were more all in towards aero a few years ago. Now it's rerouted towards a mix of aero and light weight.
It had been more reasonable if bikes actually developed from light weight, to half-breeds and ended up as full bodied aero machines.
Bikes:
Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2019.01.03)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Ex bike; Vial EVO D, Vial EVO Ultra, Scott Foil, Paduano ti bike.
Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2019.01.03)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Ex bike; Vial EVO D, Vial EVO Ultra, Scott Foil, Paduano ti bike.
Is that really useful though when the front triangle and forks are nothing like the T20? Maybe it works well with what they've done with the front triangle, or maybe it was just cheaper to recycle the design and is a total mismatch.
Prob a step change in aero gains going dropped seat stays...last bike was at 219w vs low 200s for other competitors via Tour Mag testing.
Older Madone 'solved' their comfort with ISO.
Look 'solved' with 3S design language.
New Madone did away with ISO fiddling with a radical design...interested to see what comfort considerations are on new LOOK.
Older Madone 'solved' their comfort with ISO.
Look 'solved' with 3S design language.
New Madone did away with ISO fiddling with a radical design...interested to see what comfort considerations are on new LOOK.
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Not unusal, sweet words topped up with a big portion of BS!
Bikes:
Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2019.01.03)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Ex bike; Vial EVO D, Vial EVO Ultra, Scott Foil, Paduano ti bike.
Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2019.01.03)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Ex bike; Vial EVO D, Vial EVO Ultra, Scott Foil, Paduano ti bike.
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