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wheelsONfire
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by wheelsONfire on Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:36 am
mrlobber wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:39 am
Another bike launch with 420 mm wide bars as standard in size M
Just maybe, if only the bars could be swapped, that's cheaper than swap the integrated cockpits of many competitors.
From the quoted frame weights for size S, there's nothing lightweight actually.
Geometry is a few mm longer than many others for equivalent letter sizes.
Pricing isn't stratospheric (relatively speaking).
I like the red-black colour.
You see price of the new Blade?
No prices either frameset or complete bike. Just components or such but not the new Blade.
How much does it cost?
Bikes:
Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2019.01.03)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Ex bike; Vial EVO D, Vial EVO Ultra, Scott Foil, Paduano ti bike.
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Leon
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by Leon on Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:19 pm
That is 250 grams lighter than the old one (frame, fork and headset). Seems about right they advertise a complete bike at 7kg since mine is 7.2kg (with not too much exquisite parts).
Frameset price is strong.... Luckely I don't like the new frame so I'm not tempted at all.
Ride bikes, not tanks!
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C36
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by C36 on Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:02 pm
RDY wrote:
It's nearly double the retail price its predecessor has been sitting at for the past nearly 18 months.
Previous frame was neither very fast in the wind tunnel nor super stiff on the lab. If newest outperforms a SL7, then price is aligned with competition…
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Nickldn
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by Nickldn on Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:12 pm
C36 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:02 pm
RDY wrote:
It's nearly double the retail price its predecessor has been sitting at for the past nearly 18 months.
Previous frame was neither very fast in the wind tunnel nor super stiff on the lab. If newest outperforms a SL7, then price is aligned with competition…
Doubt that would have mattered much to most Look customers, who are primarily buying the 'Euro coolness' of the brand. All the aero performance and stiffness orientated buyers would have opted for a SL7/S5/SystemSix anyway, which are more research led brands.
I guess the low price of the previous Look frames just shows that brand image can only get you so far and the real money is spent by the guys who value ultimate performance (whatever that is).
Giant Propel Advanced SL Red Etap 11s Easton EC90 wheels CeramicSpeed BB Zipp SL70 bars 6.5kg
Vitus ZX1 CRS Campy Chorus 12s Bora WTO 45 disk brake wheels Zipp SL70 bars 7.5kg
SL8 build with Craft CS5060 Wheels in progress
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rudye9mr
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by rudye9mr on Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:43 pm
Nickldn wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:12 pm
C36 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:02 pm
RDY wrote:
It's nearly double the retail price its predecessor has been sitting at for the past nearly 18 months.
Previous frame was neither very fast in the wind tunnel nor super stiff on the lab. If newest outperforms a SL7, then price is aligned with competition…
Doubt that would have mattered much to most Look customers, who are primarily buying the 'Euro coolness' of the brand. All the aero performance and stiffness orientated buyers would have opted for a SL7/S5/SystemSix anyway, which are more research led brands.
I guess the low price of the previous Look frames just shows that brand image can only get you so far and the real money is spent by the guys who value ultimate performance (whatever that is).
Last gen 795 Blade RS could also accomodate mechanical groupsets so potentially have a lower build cost than SL7 /S5 / System6
Transmission / Headset /Lat.fork / Seatpost stiffness / seatpost deflection
SL7: 58/97/53/156 /6.41
S5: 67/108/52/291 / 3.44
System6: ?
795BladeRS: 69/ 99/ 57 /297 / 3.37
Seems on par with stiffness.
Aero at 219W whereas the others would have come in lower.
The SL7 is the goldilocks option for electronic gruppos
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njleach
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by njleach on Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:21 pm
Handlebar failure on Bryan Coquard's new 795 Blade RS - hopefully Look are examining the failure and it's not a design fault:
Seems to be near the recessed edge of the handlebar aero-cover:
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jlidds
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by jlidds on Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:11 am
Does anyone know of stockists for bars for the new 2023 795 Blade RS?
There's very little informaiton available on them, in terms of detailed measurement/diagram. I did see the document link above (thanks for sharing).
Again, so annoying that a medium bike is being supplied with 42cm bars (asuming it's 42cm c-c at the hoods).
It's like steering a bloody bus!
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Venge S-Works
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Factor Ostro II
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njleach
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RDY
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by RDY on Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:53 am
550 euros before VAT for a bar (no stem) that's compatible with exactly one stem that fits exactly one bike ... they really are going for the big spenders this time round.
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njleach
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by njleach on Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:37 pm
RDY wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:53 am
550 euros before VAT for a bar (no stem) that's compatible with exactly one stem that fits exactly one bike ... they really are going for the big spenders this time round.
It's expensive, no doubt. Unfortunately Anjoy Cycle seem to be the only online retailer currently selling the new stems and bars, which limits your options.
I wish bike manufacturers would allow buyers to specify the stem length & bar width when buying a frameset.
As an aside, the reason Anjoy Cycle may have stock of the new stems & bars is because the new Look 795 Blade RS framesets they sell on their website do not include a bar & stem, which should come standard when you buy a 795 frameset (and they don't appear to be discounting the frameset to account for the lack of stem & bar). So I wonder if they are getting all the stems & bars from Look w/ the framesets, removing them, then selling them separately to customers ? Seems a little dodgy