Cannondale SuperSix Evo4

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rayrick wrote:
Wed May 24, 2023 2:46 am
My understanding is that standard stems fit the delta steerer with the little adapter pieces in place.
Thanks :)

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Okay, fun party time.

I decided that I want to try the Coefficient RR bar again (I’ve liked it in the past) and to replace the 44cm (ugh) Vision Trimax Carbon. Since the RR bar has a spot for climbing shifters, I thought I’d give those a try as well. While I’m at it, I said, I might as well hardwire the shifters to the battery as I kind of prefer that (my hydraulic cables are too short, so I have to run some new ones anyway). After finally figuring out the routing scheme for the battery, I got the battery wired up with a long EW300 wire and my rear hydro line routed. Everything looking good after a bit of cursing.

However, I rolled back the hoods on my R8170 brifters to discover 2 ports instead of 3. NOOOOOOOO.

I was going to run the long EW300 wire from the battery to one shifter and then a shorter cable to the other shifter. That should work. However, in order to use the remote shifters, I guess I’m going to have to get a junction box. Crap.

I’m guessing it’s more trouble than it’s worth and I’m not sure where I’d even put a junction box (in one end of the bars?). Any suggestions?


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rayrick wrote:
Wed May 24, 2023 2:46 am
My understanding is that standard stems fit the delta steerer with the little adapter pieces in place.
Picked up my SSE at the LBS today (they changed the freehub on my rear wheel to finally fit my 12 speed cassette). The mechanic told me that the Cannondale distributor has sent them "assembled" Supersixes without the shims around the delta steerer!
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Dan Gerous
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by Dan Gerous

LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Fri May 26, 2023 1:36 am
Okay, fun party time.

I decided that I want to try the Coefficient RR bar again (I’ve liked it in the past) and to replace the 44cm (ugh) Vision Trimax Carbon. Since the RR bar has a spot for climbing shifters, I thought I’d give those a try as well. While I’m at it, I said, I might as well hardwire the shifters to the battery as I kind of prefer that (my hydraulic cables are too short, so I have to run some new ones anyway). After finally figuring out the routing scheme for the battery, I got the battery wired up with a long EW300 wire and my rear hydro line routed. Everything looking good after a bit of cursing.

However, I rolled back the hoods on my R8170 brifters to discover 2 ports instead of 3. NOOOOOOOO.

I was going to run the long EW300 wire from the battery to one shifter and then a shorter cable to the other shifter. That should work. However, in order to use the remote shifters, I guess I’m going to have to get a junction box. Crap.

I’m guessing it’s more trouble than it’s worth and I’m not sure where I’d even put a junction box (in one end of the bars?). Any suggestions?


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So you have one free port on a shifter right? You could run a Y-shaped wire into that last port, the other two ends plug into each remote shifters.

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by LedZeppelin007

Dan Gerous wrote:
LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Fri May 26, 2023 1:36 am
Okay, fun party time.

I decided that I want to try the Coefficient RR bar again (I’ve liked it in the past) and to replace the 44cm (ugh) Vision Trimax Carbon. Since the RR bar has a spot for climbing shifters, I thought I’d give those a try as well. While I’m at it, I said, I might as well hardwire the shifters to the battery as I kind of prefer that (my hydraulic cables are too short, so I have to run some new ones anyway). After finally figuring out the routing scheme for the battery, I got the battery wired up with a long EW300 wire and my rear hydro line routed. Everything looking good after a bit of cursing.

However, I rolled back the hoods on my R8170 brifters to discover 2 ports instead of 3. NOOOOOOOO.

I was going to run the long EW300 wire from the battery to one shifter and then a shorter cable to the other shifter. That should work. However, in order to use the remote shifters, I guess I’m going to have to get a junction box. Crap.

I’m guessing it’s more trouble than it’s worth and I’m not sure where I’d even put a junction box (in one end of the bars?). Any suggestions?


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So you have one free port on a shifter right? You could run a Y-shaped wire into that last port, the other two ends plug into each remote shifters.
So, I believe I have an E-TUBE port and a sprint shifter port. I think I’ll probably have to get a four port junction box if I want to do it.

I’ll probably just scrap the hardwiring idea, because I don’t think it works without the junction box (I don’t think I can use a satellite shifter port to connect the shifter to the battery. You all correct me if I’m wrong.

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That would be a rough wiring diagram. I don’t think I can use the second port to connect the two shifters.


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by LedZeppelin007

Confirmed. Does not work. Only shows one lever as being wired. Ugh.

I suppose, in theory a Y-cable would work, but I don’t think they’ve made one for EW300 yet have they?


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by LedZeppelin007

Also, because people will care, my 44cm Vision Trimax Carbon bars weighed 236g

The 110mm Conceal stem without the Garmin mount was 213g.

The garmin mount for the conceal stem with the GoPro attachment weighed 33g.


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by Karvalo

LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Fri May 26, 2023 1:36 am
Okay, fun party time.

I decided that I want to try the Coefficient RR bar again (I’ve liked it in the past) and to replace the 44cm (ugh) Vision Trimax Carbon. Since the RR bar has a spot for climbing shifters, I thought I’d give those a try as well. While I’m at it, I said, I might as well hardwire the shifters to the battery as I kind of prefer that (my hydraulic cables are too short, so I have to run some new ones anyway). After finally figuring out the routing scheme for the battery, I got the battery wired up with a long EW300 wire and my rear hydro line routed. Everything looking good after a bit of cursing.

However, I rolled back the hoods on my R8170 brifters to discover 2 ports instead of 3. NOOOOOOOO.

I was going to run the long EW300 wire from the battery to one shifter and then a shorter cable to the other shifter. That should work. However, in order to use the remote shifters, I guess I’m going to have to get a junction box. Crap.

I’m guessing it’s more trouble than it’s worth and I’m not sure where I’d even put a junction box (in one end of the bars?). Any suggestions?


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RTFM.

https://si.shimano.com/en/dm/RAGN010/overall_diagram

JC304 doesn't need to go anywhere in particular. Put a couple of pads of sticky backed foam on or bubble wrap it, stick it on the downtube. It's barely any more effort than your shifter to shifter plan and all you need is one more cable and a £25 junction box. It's really not the end of the world!

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by Mocs123

LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Fri May 26, 2023 4:12 am
Also, because people will care, my 44cm Vision Trimax Carbon bars weighed 236g

The 110mm Conceal stem without the Garmin mount was 213g.

The garmin mount for the conceal stem with the GoPro attachment weighed 33g.


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Thanks! So the bar is not that heavy, but the stem, as anticipated, is a tank. Why are all the "aero" stems so heavy? I guess there is just more material there?
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by LedZeppelin007

Karvalo wrote:
LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Fri May 26, 2023 1:36 am
Okay, fun party time.

I decided that I want to try the Coefficient RR bar again (I’ve liked it in the past) and to replace the 44cm (ugh) Vision Trimax Carbon. Since the RR bar has a spot for climbing shifters, I thought I’d give those a try as well. While I’m at it, I said, I might as well hardwire the shifters to the battery as I kind of prefer that (my hydraulic cables are too short, so I have to run some new ones anyway). After finally figuring out the routing scheme for the battery, I got the battery wired up with a long EW300 wire and my rear hydro line routed. Everything looking good after a bit of cursing.

However, I rolled back the hoods on my R8170 brifters to discover 2 ports instead of 3. NOOOOOOOO.

I was going to run the long EW300 wire from the battery to one shifter and then a shorter cable to the other shifter. That should work. However, in order to use the remote shifters, I guess I’m going to have to get a junction box. Crap.

I’m guessing it’s more trouble than it’s worth and I’m not sure where I’d even put a junction box (in one end of the bars?). Any suggestions?


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RTFM.

https://si.shimano.com/en/dm/RAGN010/overall_diagram

JC304 doesn't need to go anywhere in particular. Put a couple of pads of sticky backed foam on or bubble wrap it, stick it on the downtube. It's barely any more effort than your shifter to shifter plan and all you need is one more cable and a £25 junction box. It's really not the end of the world!
Awesome, thanks.


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It's here
First ride is tomorrow. 62 miles.
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by LedZeppelin007

OUGrad05 wrote:It's here
First ride is tomorrow. 62 miles.
Nice. You’ll love it.


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by TLN

If you decide to get rid of that Foil in 61cm (it seems) - let me know ;)
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by ChoofWorm

Anyone know if the slam that stem bearing cover will work on the new super six?

Looking at pairing that bearing cover with an extralite stem and 3t aeroflux bars for internal cable routing, just not 100% it will all work as planned together.

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by TobinHatesYou

ChoofWorm wrote:
Sat May 27, 2023 4:44 am
Anyone know if the slam that stem bearing cover will work on the new super six?

Looking at pairing that bearing cover with an extralite stem and 3t aeroflux bars for internal cable routing, just not 100% it will all work as planned together.

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SlamTheStem bearing covers won’t work with ICR setups.

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