Cannondale SuperSix Evo4

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JaimeC wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:39 am
If Cannondale could go on and officially release this, it'd be great.
Totally agree, for some reason this proto-bike intrigues me much more than most.
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Cemicar wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:12 am
Is this still PF30? An early leaker claimed it would switch to BSA.
Every new bike being released by Cannondale is switching to BSA from now on.

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by raisinberry777

Karvalo wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:04 am
Cemicar wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:12 am
Is this still PF30? An early leaker claimed it would switch to BSA.
Every new bike being released by Cannondale is switching to BSA from now on.
Does this mean new Cannondale cranks that work with BSA?

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raisinberry777 wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:10 am
Karvalo wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:04 am
Cemicar wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:12 am
Is this still PF30? An early leaker claimed it would switch to BSA.
Every new bike being released by Cannondale is switching to BSA from now on.
Does this mean new Cannondale cranks that work with BSA?
None of the 12 speed bikes on Cannondale's current PF30a frames are specced with Cannondale cranks, so I'm going to go with probably not.

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by trex

I have some mixed feelings after looking at it.

What I like:
1. aero tweaks in the back of the bike
2. BSA
3. no more stopping pin in headtube
4. same geometry
5. new derailleur hanger - the previous one was outrageously stupid!!!

What I don't like:
1. Aero tweaks in the front of the bike. I don't know how a fork straight from the SSE SE and such a big gap to the downtube can be aero?
2. the new expander and those extra shims. Looks overkill and heavy.
3. use of Syntace axles.
4. bizarre Di2 battery mount in downtube.
5. the same problematic internal seatbinder.

Surely there is no way that despite the use of this special carbon blend called "lab71", the frame is lighter than the previous one. Not with these profiles, BSA, DI2 battery mounting etc.
I assume that most of the savings will come from the new handlebars (SystemBar R-One) and all the marketing will be based on that.

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by ccparkhill

I don't see the manual on the Cannondale website, has it been taken down? Do you have a link/copy? Thanks

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by Dorpel

Is a 30mm spindle still possible with the BSA bracket?

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by bobones

Dorpel wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:56 pm
Is a 30mm spindle still possible with the BSA bracket?
Yes, bearings are external on BSA so not as limited in size as with other narrow diameter bores like BB86 where the bearings are internal. I've been running DUB (28.99 mm) in BSA on a wet/winter bike and I am impressed by how smoothly it still runs. BSA cups for 30 mm spindles are widely available from a number of manufacturers.

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Karvalo wrote:
Sun Dec 25, 2022 9:42 am
nunokas wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 6:10 pm
Delta shaped steer probably :roll:
I've seen plenty of D shaped steerers but never a Delta shaped one.
Here's your delta :mrgreen:

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by C36

At least they have 2 fork rakes depending on the size! Few brands should copy!

On the sad note, hollowgram crankset seem gone.

Edit: will we have a marketing claim that delta spacers save 3w if you run 1cm or more of them?
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Verbal
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by Verbal

Can't wait to see the new combo and most of all the colors ...
If I can put my HollowGram crankset on it it can ne the next one.

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by wickedstealthy

Colors seem not shocking. Geometry didn't change so for me cool.

Verbal
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by Verbal

Just see it's black or blue, my two favs but need to see to be sure. Hope quality ride are closer to my gen2 too...

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by raisinberry777

Karvalo wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:23 pm
raisinberry777 wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:10 am
Karvalo wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:04 am
Cemicar wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:12 am
Is this still PF30? An early leaker claimed it would switch to BSA.
Every new bike being released by Cannondale is switching to BSA from now on.
Does this mean new Cannondale cranks that work with BSA?
None of the 12 speed bikes on Cannondale's current PF30a frames are specced with Cannondale cranks, so I'm going to go with probably not.
Hmmm, perhaps the beginning of the end for Cannondale cranks on the road then. It's telling that they're not on any of the Topstone or Synapses that use BSA bottom brackets. Seems like Shim/SRAM are quite adamant on full groupsets on their 12 speed bikes, and then anything below that that isn't using a matching crank with BSA seems to use FSA or Prowheel cranks.

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by CampagYOLO

Verbal wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:28 pm
Can't wait to see the new combo and most of all the colors ...
If I can put my HollowGram crankset on it it can ne the next one.
IIRC the axle on a Hollowgram crankset won't be long enough for a BSA bike.
Cannondale seem to have quietly phased out their own cranksets which is a shame as I'm a fan of Hollowgram ones.

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