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robertbb
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by robertbb

morrisond wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 4:02 pm
The new levers will probably take the shape of Rival as by some reports they are lighter and they work absolutely fine with wireless blips. No need for the extra ports.

I also strongly suspect that in 2x it is still 12SP as there is just not enough space in there to cram in another gear, unless something like 10-36 becames the smallest cassette.

Campy was only able to go to 13sp by cantilevering the 36 tooth cog over the hub flange, A 29T big sprocket would hit the hub flange. So 1X new AXS could be 13S - no real reason not too.

It was also be nice if they expanded the range of the FD to 16SP again - just like Campy is reported to do with their new 12sp group. Campy's new cassette options are 10-25, 10-27 and 10-29 - all nice and tight - a 13sp 10-36 would not as tight as Campy's widest 10-29.

Assuming something like an 48/32 crank and 10-36 as smallest tells me that new AXS probably won't be 13sp.
Wait, what? Campy has a new 12 speed group on the way???

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morrisond
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by morrisond

robertbb wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:12 pm
morrisond wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 4:02 pm
The new levers will probably take the shape of Rival as by some reports they are lighter and they work absolutely fine with wireless blips. No need for the extra ports.

I also strongly suspect that in 2x it is still 12SP as there is just not enough space in there to cram in another gear, unless something like 10-36 becames the smallest cassette.

Campy was only able to go to 13sp by cantilevering the 36 tooth cog over the hub flange, A 29T big sprocket would hit the hub flange. So 1X new AXS could be 13S - no real reason not too.

It was also be nice if they expanded the range of the FD to 16SP again - just like Campy is reported to do with their new 12sp group. Campy's new cassette options are 10-25, 10-27 and 10-29 - all nice and tight - a 13sp 10-36 would not as tight as Campy's widest 10-29.

Assuming something like an 48/32 crank and 10-36 as smallest tells me that new AXS probably won't be 13sp.
Wait, what? Campy has a new 12 speed group on the way???
Yes - reported by many.

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by patchandscruff

morrisond wrote:
Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:43 pm
robertbb wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:12 pm
morrisond wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 4:02 pm
The new levers will probably take the shape of Rival as by some reports they are lighter and they work absolutely fine with wireless blips. No need for the extra ports.

I also strongly suspect that in 2x it is still 12SP as there is just not enough space in there to cram in another gear, unless something like 10-36 becames the smallest cassette.

Campy was only able to go to 13sp by cantilevering the 36 tooth cog over the hub flange, A 29T big sprocket would hit the hub flange. So 1X new AXS could be 13S - no real reason not too.

It was also be nice if they expanded the range of the FD to 16SP again - just like Campy is reported to do with their new 12sp group. Campy's new cassette options are 10-25, 10-27 and 10-29 - all nice and tight - a 13sp 10-36 would not as tight as Campy's widest 10-29.

Assuming something like an 48/32 crank and 10-36 as smallest tells me that new AXS probably won't be 13sp.
Wait, what? Campy has a new 12 speed group on the way???
Yes - reported by many.
Can you share any links to these many reports?

morrisond
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by morrisond

It's in the Campagnolo 12sp thread.

New wireless 12sp - cranks 45-29, 48-32 and 50-34 - thumb shifter gone - focus on weight loss 10-25, 10-27 and 10-29 Cassettes.

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by Alfus

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Alfus wrote:Here you are
The hoods look like they have a super long reach. I love it!


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morrisond
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by morrisond

mrbrown4001 wrote:
Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:12 pm
Alfus wrote:Here you are
The hoods look like they have a super long reach. I love it!


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Those definitely look unique.

robertbb
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by robertbb

They don't look Campagnolo to me.

They look SRAM eTap (and are seen next to another MoviStar Sram bike).

Movistar have been on SRAM since 2020.

morrisond
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by morrisond

robertbb wrote:
Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:38 pm
They don't look Campagnolo to me.

They look SRAM eTap (and are seen next to another MoviStar Sram bike).

Movistar have been on SRAM since 2020.
I think they are the new SRAM levers.

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by rollinslow

morrisond wrote:
Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:02 pm
It's in the Campagnolo 12sp thread.

New wireless 12sp - cranks 45-29, 48-32 and 50-34 - thumb shifter gone - focus on weight loss 10-25, 10-27 and 10-29 Cassettes.
Okay, this is definitely not substantiated outside of maybe 1 post in the Campy threads. There is nearly nothing to support this claim.
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Alfus
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by Alfus

robertbb wrote:
Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:38 pm
They don't look Campagnolo to me.

They look SRAM eTap (and are seen next to another MoviStar Sram bike).

Movistar have been on SRAM since 2020.
Nobody is saying that are campys..

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by spartan

i like them inspired by shimano grx look
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by eric01

… or inspired by Sensah look? That’s not really a complement.
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niklasp
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by niklasp

Soooo... Nothing really new and cool about this so might as well buy a 2x12 force etap on sale? Building a bike...

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eric01 wrote:… or inspired by Sensah look? That’s not really a complement.
Sensah shape is heavelly inspired by shimano, just smaller

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