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George46GR
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Any idea on how many km should one expect from a pair of 27mm RS tyres to last on normal tarmac quality ? Thanks.
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George46GR wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 5:53 pm
Any idea on how many km should one expect from a pair of 27mm RS tyres to last on normal tarmac quality ? Thanks.
3000km

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George46GR
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Only 3000? Lets see.... I have already 1800 on mine, and they look almost brand new. I will let you know. I would expect something around 5 to 6 thousand km to be honest....
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George46GR wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 5:53 pm
Any idea on how many km should one expect from a pair of 27mm RS tyres to last on normal tarmac quality ? Thanks.
Very much depends on your riding style, speed, cornering, braking, etc. Regular pressure checks and pumping also recommended, especially for tubeless. One can ruin a tire in 1000km and the same tire also can last 6-8000 kms imo.

I have ridden my Challenge Paris Roubaix TLRs 4000 kms and sold them with my wheels, still looked like brand new. My friend rode them additional 1500 kms, and they still looked pretty oke when he sold them with the wheels.
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George46GR wrote:
Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:58 am
Only 3000? Lets see.... I have already 1800 on mine, and they look almost brand new. I will let you know. I would expect something around 5 to 6 thousand km to be honest....
Yes, only 3000km. Please see attached correspondence from Challenge regarding this question when I asked earlier this year.
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by George46GR

Thank you @208. Actually, based on what I have seen thus far (in my case), I could expect them (both 27mm, 85 kg, 75 to 85 psi, normal tarmac conditions, myself being a bad descenter) to last for approximately 5 to 6 thousand km. Anyway.... Does anybody happer to know if the 28mm tyres RS are indeed a new and slightly wider tyre? Or is it actually the same one as the 27mm with a different name?
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George46GR wrote:
Tue Dec 05, 2023 3:04 pm
Thank you @208. Actually, based on what I have seen thus far (in my case), I could expect them (both 27mm, 85 kg, 75 to 85 psi, normal tarmac conditions, myself being a bad descenter) to last for approximately 5 to 6 thousand km. Anyway.... Does anybody happer to know if the 28mm tyres RS are indeed a new and slightly wider tyre? Or is it actually the same one as the 27mm with a different name?
I'd say the smart reply from them would be to be conservative, so I reckon you're on the money.

I'm curious about this question you have also because these will likely be my next tyres, I will reach out to them and ask and post back here upon their reply.

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AFAIK they say about 2000km can be expected of Getaway HTLR / SB HTLR. IMO you'd need to be riding in almost perfect conditions with 'good' samples (no sidewall thread delam) to get that for those SKUs. So I wouldn't assume their 3000km figure is 'conservative' for the Crit RS. As with all HTLR tires, the sidewalls are likely to be an issue long before the tread is, so keep an eye on those.

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by BikeTyson

I only have 500 miles on mine so far without any crazy wear and tear. But I'd expect more than 3,000km. I got 2,600 miles on my rear Corsa Pro, and the front is still going. And those are soft tires. Conti GP5000 get me close to 5,000 miles. 3,000 km is around 1,800 miles. I'm not sure I'll be buying again if they only last that long.

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RDY wrote:
Tue Dec 05, 2023 5:00 pm
AFAIK they say about 2000km can be expected of Getaway HTLR / SB HTLR. IMO you'd need to be riding in almost perfect conditions with 'good' samples (no sidewall thread delam) to get that for those SKUs. So I wouldn't assume their 3000km figure is 'conservative' for the Crit RS. As with all HTLR tires, the sidewalls are likely to be an issue long before the tread is, so keep an eye on those.
I asked them throuth their original site. I could not figure out reading their answers. They were not very clear. I am still waiting for bike-discount.de for the 30mm to be available to get a 28mm/30mm (front and rear) pair for my Farsports Hyper wheels (24mm/30mm int/ext widths).

The tyres are very good and very supple. Still, mine are making some noise, probably due to their side tread pattern
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The 28mm will be 1mm bigger externally than the 27mm when on a 19mm internal. This is the reply from Challenge.

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Would a rim without any drilling holes better with Challenge tyres?

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208 wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:03 pm
The 28mm will be 1mm bigger externally than the 27mm when on a 19mm internal. This is the reply from Challenge.
The question still remains: Is the 28mm tyre a new model (1 mm wider than the 27mm tyre) ? Who asked about the rim ?
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George46GR wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:13 pm
208 wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:03 pm
The 28mm will be 1mm bigger externally than the 27mm when on a 19mm internal. This is the reply from Challenge.
The question still remains: Is the 28mm tyre a new model (1 mm wider than the 27mm tyre) ? Who asked about the rim ?
The question has been answered. The 28mm criterium rs is 1mm wider externally than the 27mm criterium rs when both are installed on a 19mm internal width rim.

Not sure I know how to explain this any differently if you don't understand, sorry.

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208 wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:49 pm
George46GR wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:13 pm
208 wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:03 pm
The 28mm will be 1mm bigger externally than the 27mm when on a 19mm internal. This is the reply from Challenge.
The question still remains: Is the 28mm tyre a new model (1 mm wider than the 27mm tyre) ? Who asked about the rim ?
The question has been answered.

The 28mm criterium rs is 1mm wider externally than the 27mm criterium rs when both are installed on a 19mm internal width rim.

Not sure I know how to explain this any differently if you don't understand this, sorry.

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