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JayDee81
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by JayDee81

riochang wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:55 am
JayDee81 wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:07 pm
Looks mint. Could you please measure the HT and the required spacers height? Thanks!
sure HT = 12cm, mandatory spacer = 1cm.
The HT length in the geometry chart for size S is 13cm, so it includes the spacer.
Thanks. Currently on ML 2020 TCR and have 15mm between the stem and headtube wondering whether M or ML would be better. Probably can stay on ML though.
Btw is stem angle mentioned anywhere?

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Prippo
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by Prippo

JayDee81 wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:22 am
riochang wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:55 am
JayDee81 wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:07 pm
Looks mint. Could you please measure the HT and the required spacers height? Thanks!
sure HT = 12cm, mandatory spacer = 1cm.
The HT length in the geometry chart for size S is 13cm, so it includes the spacer.
Thanks. Currently on ML 2020 TCR and have 15mm between the stem and headtube wondering whether M or ML would be better. Probably can stay on ML though.
Btw is stem angle mentioned anywhere?
It is 10°. https://www.giant.co.jp/giant22/acc_dat ... d=A0003077
The Japanese site seems to give a bit more detail than the others.

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Prippo wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:34 am
JayDee81 wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:22 am
riochang wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:55 am
JayDee81 wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:07 pm
Looks mint. Could you please measure the HT and the required spacers height? Thanks!
sure HT = 12cm, mandatory spacer = 1cm.
The HT length in the geometry chart for size S is 13cm, so it includes the spacer.
Thanks. Currently on ML 2020 TCR and have 15mm between the stem and headtube wondering whether M or ML would be better. Probably can stay on ML though.
Btw is stem angle mentioned anywhere?
It is 10°. https://www.giant.co.jp/giant22/acc_dat ... d=A0003077
The Japanese site seems to give a bit more detail than the others.
Thanks, so that's another nudge towards ML given I currently have -8°, but perhaps the handlebar sits a bit higher? In the pics it looks like the thinning is not centered but offset to the top.

slowleg
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by slowleg

riochang wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 2:50 pm
IMG_5692.JPG
Picked this up today :oops:
Weight is indeed quite impressive, 6.98 KG as pictured with dura ace pedals and its size S.
Haven't had the chance to ride it yet, but cadex freehub sound is obnoxiously loud! much louder than dt swiss EXP.
Will post my first ride report when I have time to go out next weekend.
Purchased it on the listed price or ....... :P ?

moock
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by moock

someone knows if there is going to be a frameset only availible?

smartyiak
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by smartyiak

moock wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:59 pm
someone knows if there is going to be a frameset only availible?
In France there will be :wink:

This was posted in the "New Frame Rumors" page:

"This frame is on de French Giant website, 3800 EUR...
https://www.giant-bicycles.com/fr/kit-c ... -disc-2023"

bobones
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by bobones

moock wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:59 pm
someone knows if there is going to be a frameset only availible?
Should be, the Japanese site lists 2 options
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by rides4beer

FlatlandClimber wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:24 pm
I think everything is weighed 1:1 with the categories being:
Comfort, acceleration, downhill, aero, shifting, and braking.

Now the SL7, Giant Propel, Scott Foil, and Canyon Aeroad all have a 1.4, which is the best grade they have given out (don't know if there are others?)
Do you know what the 2023 Foil tested for aero? Can't find it anywhere.

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by justkeepedaling

rides4beer wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 4:38 pm
FlatlandClimber wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:24 pm
I think everything is weighed 1:1 with the categories being:
Comfort, acceleration, downhill, aero, shifting, and braking.

Now the SL7, Giant Propel, Scott Foil, and Canyon Aeroad all have a 1.4, which is the best grade they have given out (don't know if there are others?)
Do you know what the 2023 Foil tested for aero? Can't find it anywhere.
https://i.ibb.co/z2bS9Pf/D0210874-CD08- ... -EE157.png

In the new frame for 2023 thread.

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by HBike

rides4beer wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 4:38 pm
FlatlandClimber wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:24 pm
I think everything is weighed 1:1 with the categories being:
Comfort, acceleration, downhill, aero, shifting, and braking.

Now the SL7, Giant Propel, Scott Foil, and Canyon Aeroad all have a 1.4, which is the best grade they have given out (don't know if there are others?)
Do you know what the 2023 Foil tested for aero? Can't find it anywhere.
206W in Tour magazin (new propel 209W):
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=168890&start=915

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by elmtree

moock wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:59 pm
someone knows if there is going to be a frameset only availible?
Australia has a pretty colorway for the sl frameset:

https://www.giant-bicycles.com/au/prope ... meset-2023

Looks like that's at least 3 sl frameset colors and 1 standard.

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by Aeo

RadB wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:02 am
I can imagine the staccato sound of a gun going off as a hambini BB gets pressed in. The file work on the ISP and steerer tube was painful to watch.
Unbelievable how many bike build channels do not use carbon-specific saw blades and do not neutralise the carbon dust at all
Giant TCR Adv Pro Disc '17 · BH Lynx Race Evo '19 · Seraph GR029 '21 · Canyon Inflite AL '14

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by Maddie

Metal cutting blades are perfectly fine for cutting a straight line in carbon. The blade will just blade dull quickly.

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by StiffWeenies

I still can't wrap my head around why they chose to make the steerer D-shape. If the Scott Addict RC can accept internal routing with a round oversized steerer, why can't Giant?

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RDY
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by RDY

Based on the relative pricing of JP Advanced SL and Advanced Pro framesets, and the known (Euro) price of the Advanced SL, the Advanced Pro frameset should come in at €2400-2450 in territories that get it.

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