“Different” new Madone (2023)

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spdntrxi
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by spdntrxi

Arther is one of my least favorite reviewers
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cajer
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by cajer

Femboy wrote:
Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:59 am
Lina wrote:
Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:53 pm
Femboy wrote:
Thu Sep 08, 2022 9:40 pm
Lina wrote:
Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:56 am


Just because you've watched a couple Hambini videos doesn't mean that you're an expert in aero testing. Wind tunnel testing in fact correlates extremely well with real world testing.
My brother in Christ have you ever been outside?
My brother in Christ have you ever done any aero testing?
It's basic logic‼️
Ok sure aircraft fall out of the sky they second they encounter turbulenece, fly into the jet stream, or fly anything with combined inputs. But wait that doesn't happen! You have no idea what you're talking about.

The amount of turblence you see riding outside is generally quite low, and you already test at yaw angles...

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Femboy
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by Femboy

cajer wrote:
Sun Sep 11, 2022 1:28 am
Femboy wrote:
Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:59 am
Lina wrote:
Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:53 pm
Femboy wrote:
Thu Sep 08, 2022 9:40 pm

My brother in Christ have you ever been outside?
My brother in Christ have you ever done any aero testing?
It's basic logic‼️
Ok sure aircraft fall out of the sky they second they encounter turbulenece, fly into the jet stream, or fly anything with combined inputs. But wait that doesn't happen! You have no idea what you're talking about.

The amount of turblence you see riding outside is generally quite low, and you already test at yaw angles...
Aircraft are going so flat that air is basically straight

CAAD8FRED
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by CAAD8FRED

Femboy wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:15 am
cajer wrote:
Sun Sep 11, 2022 1:28 am
Femboy wrote:
Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:59 am
Lina wrote:
Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:53 pm


My brother in Christ have you ever done any aero testing?
It's basic logic‼️
Ok sure aircraft fall out of the sky they second they encounter turbulenece, fly into the jet stream, or fly anything with combined inputs. But wait that doesn't happen! You have no idea what you're talking about.

The amount of turblence you see riding outside is generally quite low, and you already test at yaw angles...
Aircraft are going so flat that air is basically straight
You cannot be this stupid...

mgrl
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by mgrl

Swissside say that outdoor testing with aero rakes correlates extremely well with their wind tunnel testing, and they seem Pretty Trustworthy on bike aerodynamics

Femboy
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by Femboy

CAAD8FRED wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:38 am
Femboy wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:15 am
cajer wrote:
Sun Sep 11, 2022 1:28 am
Femboy wrote:
Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:59 am

It's basic logic‼️
Ok sure aircraft fall out of the sky they second they encounter turbulenece, fly into the jet stream, or fly anything with combined inputs. But wait that doesn't happen! You have no idea what you're talking about.

The amount of turblence you see riding outside is generally quite low, and you already test at yaw angles...
Aircraft are going so flat that air is basically straight
You cannot be this stupid...
*Fast

cajer
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by cajer

Femboy wrote:
Tue Sep 13, 2022 12:17 am
CAAD8FRED wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:38 am
Femboy wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:15 am
cajer wrote:
Sun Sep 11, 2022 1:28 am


Ok sure aircraft fall out of the sky they second they encounter turbulenece, fly into the jet stream, or fly anything with combined inputs. But wait that doesn't happen! You have no idea what you're talking about.

The amount of turblence you see riding outside is generally quite low, and you already test at yaw angles...
Aircraft are going so flat that air is basically straight
You cannot be this stupid...
*Fast
Do you know what angles of attack are or how fast the jet stream can be?

Cemicar
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by Cemicar

My LBS tells me Trek now focuses on the customers in USA and all of the first orders from my region are delayed to Dec or even later and the only order we can make atm is SLR 7 that may or may not come in next Spring. But I'm not certain anybody in USA has ever received the bike.

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by ViperFFM

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Nejmann
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by Nejmann

wheelsONfire wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 7:27 pm
Martin.dk wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 6:49 pm
Well the bike isn't slowing Mads Pedersen down 🥇🥇🥇
No but i don't think it matters at all which of all the bikes he would be riding
Was at a dinner where he sat at the table, he said the slowest bikes he had tried in the bikes of the peloton the Colnago V3rs and he hoped pogacar/uae never got another sponsor lol

johnsonmoog
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by johnsonmoog

Cemicar wrote:
Sat Oct 08, 2022 4:35 pm
My LBS tells me Trek now focuses on the customers in USA and all of the first orders from my region are delayed to Dec or even later and the only order we can make atm is SLR 7 that may or may not come in next Spring. But I'm not certain anybody in USA has ever received the bike.
I'm seeing delays to late November for one colour and early Jan for another colour in the SLR 7 for a size 54 that I have my eyes on. That's after initial dates slipped a couple of weeks and then slid considerably to Nov and Jan. Not great for customers.

RDY
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by RDY

johnsonmoog wrote:
Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:56 pm
Arguments aside, here's a new video review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHzYdF2NavY

Edit - Doh! My bad, he's discussing the Domane, but he has the Madone to ride (apparently the only one in the UK), so I'll aim ot edit this when he reviews it.
Might as well ask Trek's marketing department for a review. Same thing with him.

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wheelsONfire
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by wheelsONfire

Oh lord, the RSL is super low in the nose. Way more than most road race bikes
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Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2019.01.03)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)


Ex bike; Vial EVO D, Vial EVO Ultra, Scott Foil, Paduano ti bike.

spdntrxi
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by spdntrxi

wheelsONfire wrote:
Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:42 pm
Oh lord, the RSL is super low in the nose. Way more than most road race bikes
that's what I like about it...
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wheelsONfire
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by wheelsONfire

spdntrxi wrote:
Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:52 pm
wheelsONfire wrote:
Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:42 pm
Oh lord, the RSL is super low in the nose. Way more than most road race bikes
that's what I like about it...
What saddle to bar drop do you ride if i may ask?
Bikes:

Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2019.01.03)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)


Ex bike; Vial EVO D, Vial EVO Ultra, Scott Foil, Paduano ti bike.

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