I have short legs / longer torso. Drop is about 9cmwheelsONfire wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:54 pmWhat saddle to bar drop do you ride if i may ask?spdntrxi wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:52 pmthat's what I like about it...wheelsONfire wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:42 pmOh lord, the RSL is super low in the nose. Way more than most road race bikes
“Different” new Madone (2023)
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Hahahahhahaha, not.
Trek have decided to increase the price of the new bikes by 10%i-sh, due to the inevitable cost increases from inflation etc. I asked Trek and they could only tell me if I'd put an order in at the previous amount that would be guaranteed. However, quite a few retailers here in the UK won't actually take an order and just say we'll email you back. And even then you'd be putting £9k down with only the slight possibility of seeing a bike arrive at the alleged date shown. Pretty awful. I know, first world probs and buy from another manufacturer ya-da-ya-da. But oi vey.
Trek have decided to increase the price of the new bikes by 10%i-sh, due to the inevitable cost increases from inflation etc. I asked Trek and they could only tell me if I'd put an order in at the previous amount that would be guaranteed. However, quite a few retailers here in the UK won't actually take an order and just say we'll email you back. And even then you'd be putting £9k down with only the slight possibility of seeing a bike arrive at the alleged date shown. Pretty awful. I know, first world probs and buy from another manufacturer ya-da-ya-da. But oi vey.
Just Ride Bikes review with wind tunnel test:
https://youtu.be/5-A1GH3nA6A
https://youtu.be/5-A1GH3nA6A
I need to look better than on a phone screen but previous tcr / ultimate comparison was useless and completely corrupted by different positions on the bike and the journalist refuses to get it even showing his own pictures.Scott2017 wrote:Just Ride Bikes review with wind tunnel test:
https://youtu.be/5-A1GH3nA6A
Test with a human on bikes are not reproductible unless you take it a lot more seriously than here.
Saying “bikes are adjusted the same” is too simplistic.
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What do u expect from him. His “reviews” are so random
he puts out a tremendous amount of content for a one man show (and it's a great opportunity to oogle some more at bikes) but I have such a hard time getting past the re-branding of the channel last year. it's just too similar in name to that of a certain non-animal products eating cyclist that is an epic content creator.
The windtunnel test is highly suspect, not only due to TCR being allot faster (likley uncontrolled position) but also due to Enve wheels (historically not all that fast) being 10W faster at 0 yaw than fast Aeolus RSL wheels (likley also uncontrolled position) when all wheels of similar depth are +- 1W at 0 yaw.
His jersey wasn't even zipped up the same for all of the runs.... His data is competely rubbish.
His jersey wasn't even zipped up the same for all of the runs.... His data is competely rubbish.
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has trek released a white paper on the new madone. will they publish and comparison drag numbers vs the main competitors.
i guess we will need to wait for tour mag aero data. imho the isoflow gimmick will be downfall of this bike.
giant have provided the tests when they releases the 2023 propel.
i guess we will need to wait for tour mag aero data. imho the isoflow gimmick will be downfall of this bike.
giant have provided the tests when they releases the 2023 propel.
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2023 Tarmac SL7 Di2 9270
ex 2019 S-works SL6
ex 2018 Trek Madone SLR Disc
ex 2016 Giant TCRAdvanced Sl
ex 2012 Trek Madone7
watching ? hell even his voice is annoyingRDY wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 10:36 pmWatching him makes the bile rise in my throat. Emblematic of everything wrong with the cycling 'press'.Scott2017 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 1:42 pmJust Ride Bikes review with wind tunnel test:
https://youtu.be/5-A1GH3nA6A
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I cant stand that guy and his "reviews" are simply paid advertising for whatever brand his is spruiking at the time.spdntrxi wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 11:51 pmwatching ? hell even his voice is annoyingRDY wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 10:36 pmWatching him makes the bile rise in my throat. Emblematic of everything wrong with the cycling 'press'.Scott2017 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 1:42 pmJust Ride Bikes review with wind tunnel test:
https://youtu.be/5-A1GH3nA6A
He makes GCN looked like unbiased, fair reviewers!
Figure of speech obviously. I don''t think his appearance is what people object to.spdntrxi wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 11:51 pmwatching ? hell even his voice is annoyingRDY wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 10:36 pmWatching him makes the bile rise in my throat. Emblematic of everything wrong with the cycling 'press'.Scott2017 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 1:42 pmJust Ride Bikes review with wind tunnel test:
https://youtu.be/5-A1GH3nA6A
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