R8050 = 11 speed, new 105 = 12 speedultimobici wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:01 amWhy not mix Ultegra & 105? All you’d need from Ultegra would be the levers. Everything else from 7100 would be fine. Job done.cheapvega wrote:So disappointing. Just going to save up my pennies for R8050.
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105 2x12 - R7170 (R7150) / R7120 (R7100) - di2 / mechanical (MY2024)
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the R8100 rim brake levers are basically rebadged 8000 di2 levers. i wouldn't be surprised if they could be updated for 12 speed by firmware?cheapvega wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:45 pmR8050 = 11 speed, new 105 = 12 speedultimobici wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:01 amWhy not mix Ultegra & 105? All you’d need from Ultegra would be the levers. Everything else from 7100 would be fine. Job done.cheapvega wrote:So disappointing. Just going to save up my pennies for R8050.
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Should be able to, but shimano won't do that.gbrnole wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:57 pmthe R8100 rim brake levers are basically rebadged 8000 di2 levers. i wouldn't be surprised if they could be updated for 12 speed by firmware?cheapvega wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:45 pmR8050 = 11 speed, new 105 = 12 speedultimobici wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:01 amWhy not mix Ultegra & 105? All you’d need from Ultegra would be the levers. Everything else from 7100 would be fine. Job done.cheapvega wrote:So disappointing. Just going to save up my pennies for R8050.
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They could make a small adapter/converter from the old cables to the new ones.
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The only thing stopping ST-6770 and ST-R785 from shifting 12 speed Di2 is a EW-AD305 adapter and a couple lines of codeTreptay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:16 pmShould be able to, but shimano won't do that.gbrnole wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:57 pmthe R8100 rim brake levers are basically rebadged 8000 di2 levers. i wouldn't be surprised if they could be updated for 12 speed by firmware?cheapvega wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:45 pmR8050 = 11 speed, new 105 = 12 speedultimobici wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:01 am
Why not mix Ultegra & 105? All you’d need from Ultegra would be the levers. Everything else from 7100 would be fine. Job done.
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They could make a small adapter/converter from the old cables to the new ones.
In older firmware, FD-6770 used to work with 11 speed RDs before Shimano removed that functionality
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NSS! It was a given that I meant STR8150 levers.cheapvega wrote:R8050 = 11 speed, new 105 = 12 speedultimobici wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:01 amWhy not mix Ultegra & 105? All you’d need from Ultegra would be the levers. Everything else from 7100 would be fine. Job done.cheapvega wrote:So disappointing. Just going to save up my pennies for R8050.
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As for saving up for 8050, I wouldn’t bother. The price ain’t coming down any time soon. Common parts with Dura Ace like batteries, cables & junction boxes are becoming harder to find. Cassettes are even worse. Second hand stuff is commanding almost retail.
Save up for Ultegra R8150 levers and save yourself the grief of spares in the future.
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They work just fine with 105
that function is a matter of the levers, the derailleurs does not matter
It is so ridiculous to announce any new products with delivery dates from 2024!
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That delay is astonishing; I know that there are issues with suppliers, etc., but certainly it cannot be that much different to machine a 52 tooth chainring vs. a 50 tooth chainring. Is this a mistake?
well, if you wanna compare shimano to competitors.. they have competing product.
Fact that you cannot purchse it for another 500-600 days is not a big deal.
Fact that you cannot purchse it for another 500-600 days is not a big deal.
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