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Kayrehn
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by Kayrehn on Thu Feb 02, 2023 3:56 pm
Aress wrote:To answer you all its not a race bike, it's feels noticibely slugish.
Its a 20K€ endurance bike
I remember much of the discussion on the C68 is centered around its curiously racy geometry which doesn't seem to be in line with the C series usually purchased for its looks and ride feel.
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wheelsONfire
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by wheelsONfire on Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:18 pm
Kayrehn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 3:56 pm
Aress wrote:To answer you all its not a race bike, it's feels noticibely slugish.
Its a 20K€ endurance bike
I remember much of the discussion on the C68 is centered around its curiously racy geometry which doesn't seem to be in line with the C series usually purchased for its looks and ride feel.
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I don't get why the bike feels sluggish?
I remember a review of V4RS mentioned it was great when going fast, less fast, it didn't seem very appealing.
I agree, i would deem the geo very aggressive.
For that amount it would seem a Pinarello Dogma F would be a safer bet.
Anyway, an endurance bike doesn't need to be sluggish
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DP83
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by DP83 on Sun Feb 05, 2023 6:12 pm
Aress wrote: ↑Wed Feb 01, 2023 9:44 am
One of my mates got one, sold it after 2 weeks. Coming from a V3RS, from his word its an absolute pig of a bike
Pics or it didn't happen. I have one and sluggish would honestly be one of the last adjectives I'd use.
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ms6073
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by ms6073 on Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:21 pm
Aress wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 7:46 am
Its a 20K€ endurance bike
Its hardly an endurance frame when many of us would have to add 3-5 cm of spacers under the stem to be able to get the same fit as a C64.
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AJS914
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by AJS914 on Mon Feb 06, 2023 11:03 pm
The C68 makes me feel like I should snatch up the next C64 in the right color before they get really hard to find. The C64 really is the last of the C-Series Ernesto Colnagos.
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Mr.Gib
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by Mr.Gib on Mon Feb 06, 2023 11:04 pm
Aress wrote: ↑Wed Feb 01, 2023 9:44 am
One of my mates got one, sold it after 2 weeks. Coming from a V3RS, from his word its an absolute pig of a bike
Aress wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 7:46 am
To answer you all its not a race bike, it's feels noticibely slugish.
Its a 20K€ endurance bike
My BS meter is off the charts. Frame is around 1000 grams so weight is unlikely an issue. So what is it then? Flex? I doubt it. And who unloads a bike like this after 2 weeks? A bit of trolling going on here perhaps?
Differences between wheelsets and tires will have a massively greater effect on responsiveness than differences between top line frames.
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by caballero on Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:53 am
I rode one at a Colnago test day and it was a brilliant ride. I don't understand where these sluggish, endurance bike comments are coming from.
My personal bike was a dogma f rim brake at the the same time I tested and would love to have a c68 rim to compare.
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Dov
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by Dov on Sun Apr 16, 2023 2:20 pm
Question to those C68 riders: How are you gettig on with the bike long-term and should a C64 owner think about an upgrade?
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wheelsONfire
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by wheelsONfire on Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:46 pm
Dov wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 2:20 pm
Question to those C68 riders: How are you gettig on with the bike long-term and should a C64 owner think about an upgrade?
For some reason it feels like the C64 die hards wouldn't necessary see the C68 is a competitor or even an upgrade.
The geometry is not Colnago as it use to be. This bike seems lower and longer.
Personally i would pick a Dogma F over C68 (if i just had to pick one).
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AJS914
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by AJS914 on Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:09 pm
I actually like the C68 geometry. I think the new 53 would fit me better than the old 52S.
Personally, I wouldn't see the C68 as an upgrade other than you want to show up to the coffee shop with something new for your mates to ooo and ah over.
But I wouldn't pay $7,000 for a frame though. The new Colnago wants to be a Louis Vuitton.
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wheelsONfire
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by wheelsONfire on Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:13 pm
AJS914 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:09 pm
I actually like the C68 geometry. I think the new 53 would fit me better than the old 52S.
Personally, I wouldn't seen the C68 as an upgrade other than you want to show up to the coffee shop with something new for your mates to ooo and ah over.
But I wouldn't pay $7,000 for a frame. The new Colnago wants to be a Louis Vuitton.
Me neither. Looking at prices it would lean towards Time if i bought a new frameset.
Money is a factor i couldn't sway from. C68, Pinarello aso are priced on the absurd. You might aswell buy a custom made frameset.
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Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2019.01.03)
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DP83
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by DP83 on Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:26 am
Dov wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 2:20 pm
Question to those C68 riders: How are you gettig on with the bike long-term and should a C64 owner think about an upgrade?
I absolutely love it. For me personally, they nailed it. Feels stiff, but not jarring. So much of that comes down to tire choice though, I think many overestimate the importance of frames in that regard.
The geometry is what really makes it for me. The 485 was spot on.
Orginally wished it had a colnago signature, but forgot about that real quick after riding it. Still made by hand in Italy. Not sure what else is anymore. That's cooler than a signature imo
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Dov
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by Dov on Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:34 am
DP83 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:26 am
I absolutely love it. For me personally, they nailed it. Feels stiff, but not jarring. So much of that comes down to tire choice though, I think many overestimate the importance of frames in that regard.
The geometry is what really makes it for me. The 485 was spot on.
Orginally wished it had a colnago signature, but forgot about that real quick after riding it. Still made by hand in Italy. Not sure what else is anymore. That's cooler than a signature imo
Great to hear! I'll be squirelling away the pennies until the new colourways appear (hoping for a Frozen version) and the new Super Record to launch.
Brooklyn Gangsta V4 with DXR
Cannondale CAAD 10 Track
Cielo Classic Sportif U8000
Cinelli Supercorsa DA9000
Colnago C64 R12
Concorde DA7800
DeRosa Nuovo Classico SR12
Eddy Mercks Corsa Extra Ch12
Felt F1 DA9050
Trek L500
Long time supporter of Rapha
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