new frame rumors for 2023?

[wheelsONfire]

New Sturdy TT bike and Aero road bike. He developed them in conjunction with each other. Main differences are slightly deeper down tube on the TT bike to better suit TT speeds and the cockpit/headtube.

Any more photos of the bike in the aero road configuration?


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From Tom's insta. The Geo on this one isn't very aggressive but hopefully mine which should be the next one will show it off better (I run a 123mm saddle to hoods drop) also there is a fairing to go with the down tube bottle cage to make it more aero.

You did wait a long time, but the frameset/ bike looks good. Is it your first Campagnolo build?

[CustomMetal]

New Sturdy TT bike and Aero road bike. He developed them in conjunction with each other. Main differences are slightly deeper down tube on the TT bike to better suit TT speeds and the cockpit/headtube.

Any more photos of the bike in the aero road configuration?


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From Tom's insta. The Geo on this one isn't very aggressive but hopefully mine which should be the next one will show it off better (I run a 123mm saddle to hoods drop) also there is a fairing to go with the down tube bottle cage to make it more aero.

You did wait a long time, but the frameset/ bike looks good. Is it your first Campagnolo build?

I think you miss understood. That's not mine... mine will be the next one and my fit is a lot more aggressive/racey than that one! Mine is Sram Red AXS, toms cranks and Beast 60 wheels, hopefully on Tactic hubs

[RDY]

Plastic aero tunnels is what we need these days

They look suspiciously like those cable protectors you get for running wires across the floor..

They would never use cable conduits stuck to the headtube to upmark the price another €1-2k, would they? Right?

[maquisard]

Italian engineering at it's best!

[C36]

Italian engineering at it's best!

On what basis is this comment formulated? At first sight nothing…

I don’t like the bike aesthetic but until we see wind tunnel numbers we can’t comment on performance. Using vortex generators, creating lower pressures areas is theoretically a valid solution. Is it effective? We don’t yet know.

It’s like the comments on Pinarello Dogmas series where people like to bitch and totally confuse aesthetic and engineering… when for several generations it has been the most aero all-rounder bike.

[maquisard]

I once owned a light aircraft which I purchased new from Tecnam in Capua, near Naples. I had many issues with it. I visited the factory and had a bad experience with the engineering staff. That made my opinion bad.

[C36]

I once owned a light aircraft which I purchased new from Tecnam in Capua, near Naples. I had many issues with it. I visited the factory and had a bad experience with the engineering staff. That made my opinion bad.

Ok, relevance with Bianchi?

[RadB]

I've casually worked on motorcycles, and the difference between Japanese and Italian bikes was striking. It wasn't so much from the engineering itself but the philosophy of things and decisions from which everything else flowed. That's cultural, and it's not unreasonable to apply these observations and experiences to other subsets of the same culture.

[maquisard]

RadB - exactly my point, the engineering mindset is different. Design decisions and paradigms are different and this is reflected in end products.

[Maddie]

Bianchi frames aren't engineered in Italy anymore

[robeambro]

I've casually worked on motorcycles, and the difference between Japanese and Italian bikes was striking. It wasn't so much from the engineering itself but the philosophy of things and decisions from which everything else flowed. That's cultural, and it's not unreasonable to apply these observations and experiences to other subsets of the same culture.

Apply all you want, it's not unreasonable to form a personal opinion based on personal experience. What is unreasonable is to then assume that these N=1 (ie, 1 person) observations could become universal truths.

[ms6073]

I once owned a light aircraft which I purchased new from Tecnam in Capua, near Naples. I had many issues with it. I visited the factory and had a bad experience with the engineering staff. That made my opinion bad.

Ok, relevance with Bianchi?

None really. Just remember why airplanes are better than women - airplanes will kill you quick, women take there time!

[RadB]

I've casually worked on motorcycles, and the difference between Japanese and Italian bikes was striking. It wasn't so much from the engineering itself but the philosophy of things and decisions from which everything else flowed. That's cultural, and it's not unreasonable to apply these observations and experiences to other subsets of the same culture.

Apply all you want, it's not unreasonable to form a personal opinion based on personal experience. What is unreasonable is to then assume that these N=1 (ie, 1 person) observations could become universal truths.

Thanks for the permission
Never suggested it was universal or something approaching the concept of truth, which you might appreciate is a personally subjective evaluation of reality based on an almost infinite amount of variables leading up to that, and hence why multiple seemingly paradoxical truths can coexist from one instance/event of reality. So lets not go there.

[RadB]

I've casually worked on motorcycles, and the difference between Japanese and Italian bikes was striking. It wasn't so much from the engineering itself but the philosophy of things and decisions from which everything else flowed. That's cultural, and it's not unreasonable to apply these observations and experiences to other subsets of the same culture.

Apply all you want, it's not unreasonable to form a personal opinion based on personal experience. What is unreasonable is to then assume that these N=1 (ie, 1 person) observations could become universal truths.

Thanks for the permission
Never suggested it was universal or something approaching the concept of truth, which you might appreciate is a personally subjective evaluation of reality based on an almost infinite amount of variables leading up to that, and hence why multiple seemingly paradoxical truths can coexist from one instance/event of reality. So lets not go there.

Edit: please refer exhibit a, would be interested to see the metrics quantitatively supporting the ideas going on here. Share them if you find them.

[Mcdeez]

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