new frame rumors for 2023?

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batonb wrote:
Sat Jan 28, 2023 11:57 am
I've found photo of 105 di2 Kinsei

ugly as F.. size 70 :noidea:
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Regarding aero bottles - my experience is that they effectively are "slower" than conventional ones, if used for hydration in a situation where the shape itself would be beneficial on a road bike. The savings that I'd get from using an aero bottle is pretty much a wash compared to the added time of fiddling with them (instead of sitting in a good position and putting the power down).

...and all of the above is of course without the disadvantage of not being able to take/change bottles.

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I doubt S5 will even be ballpark. Though or me this bike would be much slower than any number of other aero or semi-aero frames if it can't fit a 30 on the front and 32 on the rear. But for the Dutch market on mostly well maintained bike lanes and roads, assuming you avoid the cobbles, it'll be lightning. And that tiny front tire to downtube gap should be great for stability with strong, gusty wind coming off the North Sea.

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Singular wrote:
Sat Jan 28, 2023 3:15 pm
Regarding aero bottles - my experience is that they effectively are "slower" than conventional ones, if used for hydration in a situation where the shape itself would be beneficial on a road bike. The savings that I'd get from using an aero bottle is pretty much a wash compared to the added time of fiddling with them (instead of sitting in a good position and putting the power down).

...and all of the above is of course without the disadvantage of not being able to take/change bottles.
You could say that about bottles in general vs hydration packs - either back or frame mounted. It's ridiculous that the UCI only allows them in TTs.

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RDY wrote:
Sat Jan 28, 2023 6:48 pm
Singular wrote:
Sat Jan 28, 2023 3:15 pm
Regarding aero bottles - my experience is that they effectively are "slower" than conventional ones, if used for hydration in a situation where the shape itself would be beneficial on a road bike. The savings that I'd get from using an aero bottle is pretty much a wash compared to the added time of fiddling with them (instead of sitting in a good position and putting the power down).

...and all of the above is of course without the disadvantage of not being able to take/change bottles.
You could say that about bottles in general vs hydration packs - either back or frame mounted. It's ridiculous that the UCI only allows them in TTs.
Ah, well, packs have quite a few disadvantages themselves - enough to make them a no-go for me.

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by Aress

Since no one talks about them
https://www.adrisport.com/

They completely redone their whole range of bikes
The ''vitesse'' which will be raced by at continental level with the PCO in France looks particularly good when you consider the price

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Aress wrote:
Sun Jan 29, 2023 12:19 pm
Since no one talks about them
https://www.adrisport.com/

They completely redone their whole range of bikes
The ''vitesse'' which will be raced by at continental level with the PCO in France looks particularly good when you consider the price
That "Vitesse" with 105 Di2 and 60mm Lun wheels looks awesome for that price.
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LanceLegstrong wrote:
Sun Jan 29, 2023 1:11 pm
Aress wrote:
Sun Jan 29, 2023 12:19 pm
Since no one talks about them
https://www.adrisport.com/

They completely redone their whole range of bikes
The ''vitesse'' which will be raced by at continental level with the PCO in France looks particularly good when you consider the price
That "Vitesse" with 105 Di2 and 60mm Lun wheels looks awesome for that price.
The only problem i see is the handlebar width wich is way to wide in the bigger sizes of the frame

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Aress wrote:
Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:23 pm
The only problem i see is the handlebar width wich is way to wide in the bigger sizes of the frame
And: there's no frameset, is there?
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First time I hear of this brand, and that bike's a stunner! Certainly a very attractive package given the price.

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X5SAE wrote:
Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:35 pm
Aress wrote:
Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:23 pm
The only problem i see is the handlebar width wich is way to wide in the bigger sizes of the frame
And: there's no frameset, is there?
Sent an email to try and find out, would be a shame

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Got the reply
Available as a framset for 2399 € VAT included
Size for the combo bar is 95/105 ; 105/428 ; 115/428 ; 125/448 exterior to exterior

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95\105?


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mrbrown4001 wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:31 pm
95\105?


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95/400 is the correct numbers
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Aress wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 1:45 pm
Got the reply
Available as a framset for 2399 € VAT included
Size for the combo bar is 95/105 ; 105/428 ; 115/428 ; 125/448 exterior to exterior
Thanks, mate :thumbup:

A possible problem I am seeing as an AXS user is that rise in the chainstay before the dropout. I do have a milder version of that with my Cube Agree and my Red rear derailleur is nearly touching the stay when on the 10 teeth cog. Chain and b-screw are set up correctly.
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