Weight Weenies

thewoodsman wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:15 pm

For those who have the Garbaruk cage on a road/gravel derailleur--can you still use the smaller cassettes with the cage installed?

I have the XPLR der. with both 10-36 & -44. Looking to add the Garbaruk cage to allow an 10-50/52, but do not want to lose the ability to run the 10-36. Would not use the G link, just the longer cage (verified this would be enough for the 50, probably the 52). Chain compatibility is not an issue--I can swap the upper pulley and run either flattop or eagle.

I know an eagle der. can handle both 10-36 & -50, so the XPLR with a longer cage should be able to do the same, but would like to hear from anyone who has experience with this setup.

CustomMetal wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:56 pm

thewoodsman wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:15 pm

For those who have the Garbaruk cage on a road/gravel derailleur--can you still use the smaller cassettes with the cage installed?

I have the XPLR der. with both 10-36 & -44. Looking to add the Garbaruk cage to allow an 10-50/52, but do not want to lose the ability to run the 10-36. Would not use the G link, just the longer cage (verified this would be enough for the 50, probably the 52). Chain compatibility is not an issue--I can swap the upper pulley and run either flattop or eagle.

I know an eagle der. can handle both 10-36 & -50, so the XPLR with a longer cage should be able to do the same, but would like to hear from anyone who has experience with this setup.

Can the eagle RD actually work well with a 10-36?

gSporco wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:04 pm

CustomMetal wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:56 pm

thewoodsman wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:15 pm

For those who have the Garbaruk cage on a road/gravel derailleur--can you still use the smaller cassettes with the cage installed?

I have the XPLR der. with both 10-36 & -44. Looking to add the Garbaruk cage to allow an 10-50/52, but do not want to lose the ability to run the 10-36. Would not use the G link, just the longer cage (verified this would be enough for the 50, probably the 52). Chain compatibility is not an issue--I can swap the upper pulley and run either flattop or eagle.

I know an eagle der. can handle both 10-36 & -50, so the XPLR with a longer cage should be able to do the same, but would like to hear from anyone who has experience with this setup.

Can the eagle RD actually work well with a 10-36?

In my case it shifted like garbage with Eagle RD and 10-36.. Tried it with Flattop and Eagle chain.. So for me, no, it did not work

thewoodsman wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:15 pm

For those who have the Garbaruk cage on a road/gravel derailleur--can you still use the smaller cassettes with the cage installed?

I have the XPLR der. with both 10-36 & -44. Looking to add the Garbaruk cage to allow an 10-50/52, but do not want to lose the ability to run the 10-36. Would not use the G link, just the longer cage (verified this would be enough for the 50, probably the 52). Chain compatibility is not an issue--I can swap the upper pulley and run either flattop or eagle.

I know an eagle der. can handle both 10-36 & -50, so the XPLR with a longer cage should be able to do the same, but would like to hear from anyone who has experience with this setup.

takolino wrote: ↑

Sun May 01, 2022 10:06 pm

Looks like e*thirteen has come out with a gravel specific cassette, the Helix R-12 9-45. It's a bit lighter than the 950 and the TRS 946 and guessing or hoping that the spacing is compatible with XPLR shifting. This could be the ticket for my Crux build. Using a non-XPLR cassette will open up use of other chains and chainrings.

takolino wrote: ↑

Sun May 01, 2022 10:06 pm

Looks like e*thirteen has come out with a gravel specific cassette, the Helix R-12 9-45. It's a bit lighter than the 950 and the TRS 946 and guessing or hoping that the spacing is compatible with XPLR shifting. This could be the ticket for my Crux build. Using a non-XPLR cassette will open up use of other chains and chainrings.

Contemplating between Red/Force AXS with Garbaruk cage or Red/Force XPLR derailleur. Seems like either will work but guessing the XPLR is better since it's not modified and designed for 1x. Has anyone compared these two setups? How good are the Garbaruk cages? Are they lighter than the Sram cages? Also, has anyone tried the XPLR derailleurs with non-flattop chains? Anyone tried Shimano HG+ 12s chains with XPLR? TIA

Scarpa wrote: ↑

Mon May 02, 2022 6:56 pm

This would be great to have a Helix R-12 9-45 - where you got this info?

req110 wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 04, 2022 8:45 am

Can some of you confirm, whether XPLR rear mechs are able to put more tension on chain than regular road rear mechs?

Reason why i am asking is for a friend who would like to have 1x12 // 50T front and 10-44 rear... He would like to use regular road mech + garbaruk long cage. But i am afraid, that there will be lot of chainslap on hardest gears.

For that gearing i would probably use XX1 AXS rear mech.... Or XPLR rear mech? (if that one has the same feature as XX1 AXS >>> making bigger tension on chain).


Orbit Fluid may be the feature, but looking for confirmation from owners.

https://support.sram.com/hc/en-us/artic ... anagement-

req110 wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 04, 2022 8:45 am

Can some of you confirm, whether XPLR rear mechs are able to put more tension on chain than regular road rear mechs?

Reason why i am asking is for a friend who would like to have 1x12 // 50T front and 10-44 rear... He would like to use regular road mech + garbaruk long cage. But i am afraid, that there will be lot of chainslap on hardest gears.

req110 wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:06 pm

You can use short cage red/force mech with garbaruk cage with 44 cassette. Without any extension.

But that's not what I am asking.

My question is if XPLR rear mechs are able to put more tension on chain than regulat road mechs. I want to avoid chain slap on hardest gears.