Etap AXS XPLR
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What's the source? Googling "sram axs xplr" gives zero relevant results so not even rumors on other forums as far as I can tell. If this is happening I don't get why they didn't announce it along with GX or Rival. Sure they get to stay a little bit longer in the news cycle I guess, but will surely alienate/anger customers who just bought either of those two but would rather have had parts compatible with this new gearing ratio…
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SRAM really are rubbing thier superior supply chain in Shimano's face if this is true (and they can ship it). So many new releases this year!
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This superior supply chain certainly doesn't apply to the Red AXS group set I've had on order for 6 weeks, with no real ETA.bikewithnoname wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:20 pmSRAM really are rubbing thier superior supply chain in Shimano's face if this is true (and they can ship it). So many new releases this year!
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Eh. Next availability of aftermarket Red AXS flat mount groupsets in the UK is February 2022. It's not just Shimano's supply chain that's struggling.bikewithnoname wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:20 pmSRAM really are rubbing thier superior supply chain in Shimano's face if this is true (and they can ship it). So many new releases this year!
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It's been bad for a few months, but I was able to get my Red/Eagle mullet build parts within a week back in September. I was considering GRX too, but they were already saddled with 2-3mo backorders for Shimano parts by then.
Looks like Red 2x HRD has backorder date of late May in the US.
Looks like Red 2x HRD has backorder date of late May in the US.
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They didn't make a comparison with SRAM, but one of the CyclingTips Podcasts stated that Shimano is institutionally conservative. They are not confident that the bump in demand will be permanent and are therefore not keen to invest in substantially increasing manufacturing capacity.
Seems a bit crazy to me when we read of people stuggling to get parts up to 12 months after a DA or XTR launch but I suppose for the remaining 2-3 years of the cycle they don't want a relative oversupply of the premium stuff.
Seems a bit crazy to me when we read of people stuggling to get parts up to 12 months after a DA or XTR launch but I suppose for the remaining 2-3 years of the cycle they don't want a relative oversupply of the premium stuff.
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petromyzon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:35 amThey didn't make a comparison with SRAM, but one of the CyclingTips Podcasts stated that Shimano is institutionally conservative. They are not confident that the bump in demand will be permanent and are therefore not keen to invest in substantially increasing manufacturing capacity.
Seems a bit crazy to me when we read of people stuggling to get parts up to 12 months after a DA or XTR launch but I suppose for the remaining 2-3 years of the cycle they don't want a relative oversupply of the premium stuff.
You wouldn't expand a factory for a short-term spike in demand and neither would they. To use another industry example, the whisky business has the monumental task of trying to predict demand 10-20 years in advance. At least whisky is a consumable...bikes are not. There is most likely going to be a huge spike in second-hand bike sales in the coming years that will eat into sales numbers. The Pros Closet is already preparing for this...they quintupled their building space in 2020.
This would be awesome!! I wanted something other than the 9-46 eThirteen cassette for some time now.. 10-40,10-42, 10-44 would be awesome!!! And I will ditch the FD forever!!
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Which is the sensible approach... assuming that their competitors can't match the increase in demand either. If they can, Shimano will lose market share. However, it seems nobody gambled and all the companies took the conservative route, which given the other problems brought on by CV19, the container shortage, etc, probably makes sense.petromyzon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:35 am... Shimano is institutionally conservative. They are not confident that the bump in demand will be permanent and are therefore not keen to invest in substantially increasing manufacturing capacity.
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Yeah I don't disagree. But if you read the new DuraAce thread people are super upset; Shimano is either about to go bankrupt or all their employees will end up impaled on the pitchforks of the WW mob!
That would be the dream coming true. I always thought that the gap between 10-36 and 10-50 was too big and was waiting either for that or GRX 12sp (whenever that will be coming).
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This would be spectacular. Make it 13 speed while at it.
Skip all these different cassettes they have now. Just 3: 10-30 13 speed for roadies. 10-44 13 speed for gravel. 10-52 for mtbs.