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I am in the camp that there is no such thing as too many gears, but I think 2x12 is in the area of, that is enough.

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Miller wrote: ↑

Mon May 29, 2023 4:41 pm

I wonder, assuming Campag retain the intention to supply professional road racing, if teams will have objected to 13sp on the grounds that it will make neutral service difficult in an otherwise 12sp world.

Camapgnolo has always been the first to release an extra cog (9-speed, 10-speed, 11-speed, 12-speed) as far as I know.
Mixed set-ups in the peloton have always been the case when an extra cog was released and the other 2 big component makers didn's follow.
Nothing new here.

Campagnolo just updated their website. Quick scan - SR EPS and Centaur are gone. Zonda and Calima wheels are gone as well.

That's a shame. Zondas were my favourite budget rim brake wheelset.

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Mon May 29, 2023 2:37 pm

ultimobici wrote: ↑

Mon May 29, 2023 2:31 pm

Shimano have not discontinued rim brake at all. Both Dura Ace and Ultegra are offered in rim brake.

...and both of them are essentially rebadged 11s shifters+ callipers.

And that gives me hope that Shimano might continue to offer rim brake DI2 options. There's not really any need to develop rim brake shifters any more anyway. They have reached their developmental end, I would think.

Zonda gone?? I loved the brand ever since I saw the Record OR in some mountain bike mailorder catalog as a boy and I've never owned a road bike with a non-campag groupset (and the OEM wheels were soon replaced), but dropping a well respected product like that only because it does not fit their cycling componentry Luis Vuitton self-image, wow. Almost as if they saw kindness in making it easy to say goodbye.

Fulcrum surely makes enough wheels to cover the Zonda. Has Campagnolo introduced any newer low end wheelsets?

That's a powerful reaction Campag elicited there. If Zonda goes you're dead to me.

I thought there are still Zondas, only in disc brake version. But even those are gone!

As for SR EPS I already saw it discounted at bike24 yesterday.

usr wrote:Zonda gone?? I loved the brand ever since I saw the Record OR in some mountain bike mailorder catalog as a boy and I've never owned a road bike with a non-campag groupset (and the OEM wheels were soon replaced), but dropping a well respected product like that only because it does not fit their cycling componentry Luis Vuitton self-image, wow. Almost as if they saw kindness in making it easy to say goodbye.

If you want Zonda rim brake wheels, Condor have almost 100 pairs in stock across ED & HG versions. Campag have not deleted them from their b2b either. You can still order Shamal Ultra too.


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AJS914 wrote: ↑

Mon May 29, 2023 7:13 pm

Fulcrum surely makes enough wheels to cover the Zonda. Has Campagnolo introduced any newer low end wheelsets?

I just hope that the Zonda's are soon replaced with a C21+ version with cup/cone bearings, G3, momag rims and N3W body. That would be the perfect training wheel for me. I'm considering the Racing 3's, but C19 is a bit on the narrow side.

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Has some L-Twoo Chinese Groupset vibes.

polpy wrote: ↑

Mon May 29, 2023 9:28 pm

Has some L-Twoo Chinese Groupset vibes.

It would seem the shifter buttons leaked earlier were indeed not unfinished protos ... but the real deal. Looks very odd.

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Full shots of the Groupset

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cs2LBSrIPAC ... BiNWFlZA==