2021 Canyon Aeroad

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ichobi
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by ichobi

quick question for those who own the CFR. how does it climb relative to other bikes you have ridden? Agile? Sluggish? Pretty good, excellent? Point of comparison, I always find the previous gen aeroad to be super fast on flat but a little sluggish on the climb. This is not about weight, just how it reacts to power and the feeling it gives.

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LedZeppelin007
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by LedZeppelin007

ichobi wrote:quick question for those who own the CFR. how does it climb relative to other bikes you have ridden? Agile? Sluggish? Pretty good, excellent? Point of comparison, I always find the previous gen aeroad to be super fast on flat but a little sluggish on the climb. This is not about weight, just how it reacts to power and the feeling it gives.

Thanks
In my experience, when it’s working, it is a very good climber. Feels slightly less explosive than an SL7 or an Ultimate, but still manages to set PBs for me everywhere. It’s the best/most frustrating product I’ve ever owned. I love it, it fits me like a glove and it is measurably faster than any other bike I’ve ever ridden regardless of the terrain. And there’s always some problem with it.

Anyone have any clue what the hell happened to my cockpit/steerer?


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Eterna7m
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by Eterna7m

LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:42 pm
Does anyone else with the CP0018 cockpit had issues when trying to lower/remove spacers? It’s an easy process. However, I loosed the 9nm bolt, took out the spacers, slid it down, and went to use their weird driver to tighten everything back together and found this:

Image

There’s some Carbon or something in there blocking the driver.

In addition, the 9nm bolt is now frozen (I can’t loosen or tighten it).

Did I screw something up, or is it defective?


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When I wasn't able to move the cockpit screw
they repaired it under warranty. PITA because the cockpit had to be recabled.
(Service point, not canyon itself)
I heard the screw bursting and I didn't do anything unusual. If anything maybe unscrewed it to far but I don't think so.

man1ac
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by man1ac

Has anyone some pictures of their Aeroad with 50mm deep wheels?

cnyn
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by cnyn

mine is a size small with front wheel 50 / rear 62 if you want to see?

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by LedZeppelin007

Eterna7m wrote:
LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:42 pm
Does anyone else with the CP0018 cockpit had issues when trying to lower/remove spacers? It’s an easy process. However, I loosed the 9nm bolt, took out the spacers, slid it down, and went to use their weird driver to tighten everything back together and found this:

Image

There’s some Carbon or something in there blocking the driver.

In addition, the 9nm bolt is now frozen (I can’t loosen or tighten it).

Did I screw something up, or is it defective?


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When I wasn't able to move the cockpit screw
they repaired it under warranty. PITA because the cockpit had to be recabled.
(Service point, not canyon itself)
I heard the screw bursting and I didn't do anything unusual. If anything maybe unscrewed it to far but I don't think so.
Jesus. The last thing I want to do is to take this in for repair. The love/hate I have for this bike is incredible.


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Eterna7m
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by Eterna7m

LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:46 pm
Eterna7m wrote:
LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:42 pm
Does anyone else with the CP0018 cockpit had issues when trying to lower/remove spacers? It’s an easy process. However, I loosed the 9nm bolt, took out the spacers, slid it down, and went to use their weird driver to tighten everything back together and found this:

Image

There’s some Carbon or something in there blocking the driver.

In addition, the 9nm bolt is now frozen (I can’t loosen or tighten it).

Did I screw something up, or is it defective?


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When I wasn't able to move the cockpit screw
they repaired it under warranty. PITA because the cockpit had to be recabled.
(Service point, not canyon itself)
I heard the screw bursting and I didn't do anything unusual. If anything maybe unscrewed it to far but I don't think so.
Jesus. The last thing I want to do is to take this in for repair. The love/hate I have for this bike is incredible.


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Understandably so.
When I first asked the support they instructed me to go to any workshop which is hilarious to me. As if a random workshop knows about the details of their proprietary cockpit. Their authorized Service Partner helped me. Took about a month because they had to source the screw.
But maybe you have a different issue.

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by LedZeppelin007

Eterna7m wrote:
LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:46 pm
Eterna7m wrote:
LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:42 pm
Does anyone else with the CP0018 cockpit had issues when trying to lower/remove spacers? It’s an easy process. However, I loosed the 9nm bolt, took out the spacers, slid it down, and went to use their weird driver to tighten everything back together and found this:

Image

There’s some Carbon or something in there blocking the driver.

In addition, the 9nm bolt is now frozen (I can’t loosen or tighten it).

Did I screw something up, or is it defective?


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When I wasn't able to move the cockpit screw
they repaired it under warranty. PITA because the cockpit had to be recabled.
(Service point, not canyon itself)
I heard the screw bursting and I didn't do anything unusual. If anything maybe unscrewed it to far but I don't think so.
Jesus. The last thing I want to do is to take this in for repair. The love/hate I have for this bike is incredible.


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Understandably so.
When I first asked the support they instructed me to go to any workshop which is hilarious to me. As if a random workshop knows about the details of their proprietary cockpit. Their authorized Service Partner helped me. Took about a month because they had to source the screw.
But maybe you have a different issue.
It sounds like a similar issue (crappy cable routing?). I’ve had the bike for less than 2 months.

I just don’t believe them anymore when they say only 1% of these bikes have problems. I’ve had five (!) and one was problem free.


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Eterna7m
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by Eterna7m

Nah the cockpit locking screw pretty much exploded.
Funny that you mention the routing, because the Service Partner recabled everything new, but for some reason shortened the hoses as well.
So I wasn't able to fold the handlebars as intended anymore because the cables were too short.

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by Cannoli

Eterna7m wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:53 pm
Nah the cockpit locking screw pretty much exploded.
Funny that you mention the routing, because the Service Partner recabled everything new, but for some reason shortened the hoses as well.
So I wasn't able to fold the handlebars as intended anymore because the cables were too short.
The brake hoses had to be shortened because the olive has to be cut off to re-route the hoses through the headset. However, they shouldn't have been shortened that much that you can't fold the levers any more. I've had mine off twice now, which required cutting the olive off both times, and I still have plenty of slack left. Sounds like the shop that did your work went hack happy.

Also, it's probably a good idea to learn how to work on your own bike so you know things are done right. No one will care about your bike as much as you do. It really isn't that hard to work on the Aeroad, assuming you have some skill with tools. The headset assembly is actually pretty straight forward once you understand how to route the cables. This comment isn't directed at you, but rather a general statement.
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by LedZeppelin007

Cannoli wrote:
Eterna7m wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:53 pm
Nah the cockpit locking screw pretty much exploded.
Funny that you mention the routing, because the Service Partner recabled everything new, but for some reason shortened the hoses as well.
So I wasn't able to fold the handlebars as intended anymore because the cables were too short.
The brake hoses had to be shortened because the olive has to be cut off to re-route the hoses through the headset. However, they shouldn't have been shortened that much that you can't fold the levers any more. I've had mine off twice now, which required cutting the olive off both times, and I still have plenty of slack left. Sounds like the shop that did your work went hack happy.

Also, it's probably a good idea to learn how to work on your own bike so you know things are done right. No one will care about your bike as much as you do. It really isn't that hard to work on the Aeroad, assuming you have some skill with tools. The headset assembly is actually pretty straight forward once you understand how to route the cables. This comment isn't directed at you, but rather a general statement.
I did everything by the book (it’s a super easy job) along with the Canyon video to boot. Not to mention, I’ve done this at least once before on a prior Aeroad and it was super easy. I can tell you, something is seriously screwed up with my bike and I don’t understand how the previously loosened 9nm bolt froze up.


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Eterna7m
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by Eterna7m

Cannoli wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:11 am
Eterna7m wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:53 pm
Nah the cockpit locking screw pretty much exploded.
Funny that you mention the routing, because the Service Partner recabled everything new, but for some reason shortened the hoses as well.
So I wasn't able to fold the handlebars as intended anymore because the cables were too short.
The brake hoses had to be shortened because the olive has to be cut off to re-route the hoses through the headset. However, they shouldn't have been shortened that much that you can't fold the levers any more. I've had mine off twice now, which required cutting the olive off both times, and I still have plenty of slack left. Sounds like the shop that did your work went hack happy.

Also, it's probably a good idea to learn how to work on your own bike so you know things are done right. No one will care about your bike as much as you do. It really isn't that hard to work on the Aeroad, assuming you have some skill with tools. The headset assembly is actually pretty straight forward once you understand how to route the cables. This comment isn't directed at you, but rather a general statement.
I was more or less quoting the mechanic.
Yes you're absolutely right. I do work on my other bikes myself but I am not touching anything that is covered by warranty and requires a "specialist". Also when that happened I thought the fork had snapped. It was really loud.

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by Cannoli

LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:06 am
Cannoli wrote:
Eterna7m wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:53 pm
Nah the cockpit locking screw pretty much exploded.
Funny that you mention the routing, because the Service Partner recabled everything new, but for some reason shortened the hoses as well.
So I wasn't able to fold the handlebars as intended anymore because the cables were too short.
The brake hoses had to be shortened because the olive has to be cut off to re-route the hoses through the headset. However, they shouldn't have been shortened that much that you can't fold the levers any more. I've had mine off twice now, which required cutting the olive off both times, and I still have plenty of slack left. Sounds like the shop that did your work went hack happy.

Also, it's probably a good idea to learn how to work on your own bike so you know things are done right. No one will care about your bike as much as you do. It really isn't that hard to work on the Aeroad, assuming you have some skill with tools. The headset assembly is actually pretty straight forward once you understand how to route the cables. This comment isn't directed at you, but rather a general statement.
I did everything by the book (it’s a super easy job) along with the Canyon video to boot. Not to mention, I’ve done this at least once before on a prior Aeroad and it was super easy. I can tell you, something is seriously screwed up with my bike and I don’t understand how the previously loosened 9nm bolt froze up.


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No doubt there was something wrong with your bike, and I don't blame you for leaving it alone due to the off chance Canyon would refuse your warranty claim if they think you messed wit it. Unfortunately for me, the only Canyon shop is on the other side of the country (California) and I've found that most "mechanics" are no more familiar with my bike than I am.

When my wife's CFR headset bearings fell apart, I had little choice but to address the job myself else face the wrath of a woman without a bike to ride. I have the factory manual and all the tools, so I went at it with little trouble. The only issues I had were technique related when reassembling the headset and bars. Once I had that sorted, it was easy. In fact I've done it 4 times now on three different Aeroads. I can have the entire headset apart and back together in less than an hour, hoses and Di2 routed through the drops and all.

Happy to share the factory manual if anyone is interested. Following the techniques in the book made the job a piece of cake (or pudding for my European friends).
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by Eterna7m

Cannoli wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:00 pm
LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:06 am
Cannoli wrote:
Eterna7m wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:53 pm
Nah the cockpit locking screw pretty much exploded.
Funny that you mention the routing, because the Service Partner recabled everything new, but for some reason shortened the hoses as well.
So I wasn't able to fold the handlebars as intended anymore because the cables were too short.
The brake hoses had to be shortened because the olive has to be cut off to re-route the hoses through the headset. However, they shouldn't have been shortened that much that you can't fold the levers any more. I've had mine off twice now, which required cutting the olive off both times, and I still have plenty of slack left. Sounds like the shop that did your work went hack happy.

Also, it's probably a good idea to learn how to work on your own bike so you know things are done right. No one will care about your bike as much as you do. It really isn't that hard to work on the Aeroad, assuming you have some skill with tools. The headset assembly is actually pretty straight forward once you understand how to route the cables. This comment isn't directed at you, but rather a general statement.
I did everything by the book (it’s a super easy job) along with the Canyon video to boot. Not to mention, I’ve done this at least once before on a prior Aeroad and it was super easy. I can tell you, something is seriously screwed up with my bike and I don’t understand how the previously loosened 9nm bolt froze up.


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No doubt there was something wrong with your bike, and I don't blame you for leaving it alone due to the off chance Canyon would refuse your warranty claim if they think you messed wit it. Unfortunately for me, the only Canyon shop is on the other side of the country (California) and I've found that most "mechanics" are no more familiar with my bike than I am.

When my wife's CFR headset bearings fell apart, I had little choice but to address the job myself else face the wrath of a woman without a bike to ride. I have the factory manual and all the tools, so I went at it with little trouble. The only issues I had were technique related when reassembling the headset and bars. Once I had that sorted, it was easy. In fact I've done it 4 times now on three different Aeroads. I can have the entire headset apart and back together in less than an hour, hoses and Di2 routed through the drops and all.

Happy to share the factory manual if anyone is interested. Following the techniques in the book made the job a piece of cake (or pudding for my European friends).
Yes me, that would be great thanks.

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by LedZeppelin007

Cannoli wrote:
LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:06 am
Cannoli wrote:
Eterna7m wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:53 pm
Nah the cockpit locking screw pretty much exploded.
Funny that you mention the routing, because the Service Partner recabled everything new, but for some reason shortened the hoses as well.
So I wasn't able to fold the handlebars as intended anymore because the cables were too short.
The brake hoses had to be shortened because the olive has to be cut off to re-route the hoses through the headset. However, they shouldn't have been shortened that much that you can't fold the levers any more. I've had mine off twice now, which required cutting the olive off both times, and I still have plenty of slack left. Sounds like the shop that did your work went hack happy.

Also, it's probably a good idea to learn how to work on your own bike so you know things are done right. No one will care about your bike as much as you do. It really isn't that hard to work on the Aeroad, assuming you have some skill with tools. The headset assembly is actually pretty straight forward once you understand how to route the cables. This comment isn't directed at you, but rather a general statement.
I did everything by the book (it’s a super easy job) along with the Canyon video to boot. Not to mention, I’ve done this at least once before on a prior Aeroad and it was super easy. I can tell you, something is seriously screwed up with my bike and I don’t understand how the previously loosened 9nm bolt froze up.


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No doubt there was something wrong with your bike, and I don't blame you for leaving it alone due to the off chance Canyon would refuse your warranty claim if they think you messed wit it. Unfortunately for me, the only Canyon shop is on the other side of the country (California) and I've found that most "mechanics" are no more familiar with my bike than I am.

When my wife's CFR headset bearings fell apart, I had little choice but to address the job myself else face the wrath of a woman without a bike to ride. I have the factory manual and all the tools, so I went at it with little trouble. The only issues I had were technique related when reassembling the headset and bars. Once I had that sorted, it was easy. In fact I've done it 4 times now on three different Aeroads. I can have the entire headset apart and back together in less than an hour, hoses and Di2 routed through the drops and all.

Happy to share the factory manual if anyone is interested. Following the techniques in the book made the job a piece of cake (or pudding for my European friends).
Oh I think Canyon are going to warranty it. I don’t really want them to “fix” it though. I want them to take it back. In my experience with this model, when things start going wrong, everything tends to go to crap.


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