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mathemagician
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by mathemagician on Tue Jun 06, 2023 4:33 pm
Ferdi77 wrote:Another off topic question for you guys: iam 177cm with 83cm inseam and according to the time size chart, I am clearly a size M. Iam a little bit confused by the long top tube (555) - what do you guys think? Would be the size small the better choice? I think it has a 540 top tube.
For comparison: iam riding a 55 cm bianchi oltre XR4 and had a bikefit on it. It fits perfectly (top tube 549) and has a steeper seat angle (73,5 vs 73cm).
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I'm 173cm with 82.5cm inseam and medium is fine for me, albeit with a 100mm stem. My wingspan is 184cm so have a fairly high ape index though.
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SuecoGuatemalteco
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by SuecoGuatemalteco on Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:48 pm
Ferdi77 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:31 pm
Another off topic question for you guys: iam 177cm with 83cm inseam and according to the time size chart, I am clearly a size M. Iam a little bit confused by the long top tube (555) - what do you guys think? Would be the size small the better choice? I think it has a 540 top tube.
For comparison: iam riding a 55 cm bianchi oltre XR4 and had a bikefit on it. It fits perfectly (top tube 549) and has a steeper seat angle (73,5 vs 73cm).
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I'm 173 cm with an inseam of 82 and I also rode a Bianchi Oltre in size 55. I went with the Small sized Time Alpe'd Huez.
2023 Time Alpe d'Huez 2023
2020 Bianchi Oltre XR4 *Sold
2018 Giant Propel Pro Advanced
2017 Bianchi Intrepida *Sold
2016 Verenti Technique *Sold
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zappafile123
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by zappafile123 on Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:28 am
SuecoGuatemalteco wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:48 pm
Ferdi77 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:31 pm
Another off topic question for you guys: iam 177cm with 83cm inseam and according to the time size chart, I am clearly a size M. Iam a little bit confused by the long top tube (555) - what do you guys think? Would be the size small the better choice? I think it has a 540 top tube.
For comparison: iam riding a 55 cm bianchi oltre XR4 and had a bikefit on it. It fits perfectly (top tube 549) and has a steeper seat angle (73,5 vs 73cm).
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I'm 173 cm with an inseam of 82 and I also rode a Bianchi Oltre in size 55. I went with the Small sized Time Alpe'd Huez.
All you guys are riding a size too big lol. Medium in Time (for the guy above) is way too big for someone who is only 173 cm. The stack is 562 mm which is gigantic and you've have a a bees dick seat post sticking out with 55cm C-T seattube. You'd end up with a honky position of hardly any saddle to bar drop and sit really high. 178cm is what I would consider the starting height for a M. At 173 cm S ADH works just fine, but I would consider getting an XS to get a proper race position.
I guess everyone's body is different and limb lengths matter, but I would think a 55 Oltre is almost univerasally slightly too big for a person at 173 too.
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mathemagician
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by mathemagician on Thu Jun 08, 2023 7:06 am
zappafile123 wrote:All you guys are riding a size too big lol. Medium in Time (for the guy above) is way too big for someone who is only 173 cm. The stack is 562 mm which is gigantic and you've have a a bees dick seat post sticking out with 55cm C-T seattube. You'd end up with a honky position of hardly any saddle to bar drop and sit really high. 178cm is what I would consider the starting height for a M. At 173 cm S ADH works just fine, but I would consider getting an XS to get a proper race position.
I guess everyone's body is different and limb lengths matter, but I would think a 55 Oltre is almost univerasally slightly too big for a person at 173 too.
Thanks, I'll chuck my bike away and tell my bike fitter to maybe think about a new career, because random guy on the internet knows best.
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SuecoGuatemalteco
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by SuecoGuatemalteco on Thu Jun 08, 2023 7:16 am
zappafile123 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:28 am
SuecoGuatemalteco wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:48 pm
Ferdi77 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:31 pm
Another off topic question for you guys: iam 177cm with 83cm inseam and according to the time size chart, I am clearly a size M. Iam a little bit confused by the long top tube (555) - what do you guys think? Would be the size small the better choice? I think it has a 540 top tube.
For comparison: iam riding a 55 cm bianchi oltre XR4 and had a bikefit on it. It fits perfectly (top tube 549) and has a steeper seat angle (73,5 vs 73cm).
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I'm 173 cm with an inseam of 82 and I also rode a Bianchi Oltre in size 55. I went with the
Small sized Time Alpe'd Huez.
All you guys are riding a size too big lol. Medium in Time (for the guy above) is way too big for someone who is only 173 cm. The stack is 562 mm which is gigantic and you've have a a bees dick seat post sticking out with 55cm C-T seattube. You'd end up with a honky position of hardly any saddle to bar drop and sit really high. 178cm is what I would consider the starting height for a M. At 173 cm S ADH works just fine, but I would consider getting an XS to get a proper race position.
I guess everyone's body is different and limb lengths matter, but I would think a 55 Oltre is almost univerasally slightly too big for a person at 173 too.
Yes a medium is a size to big for me, that's why I'm riding a size
Small lol.
But thanks for your consideration lol.
Lol
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openwheelracing
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by openwheelracing on Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:57 pm
ADH21 geometry is relaxed and flirts between endurance and race. I think it fits most people well. Most can cut the steerer and slam it yet still ride without hand fatigue or lower back pain. It's weird it feels less stretched than comparable sized bikes. You do sit "higher" though. It works in a weird way perfect for long group rides. Very comfortable. Between sizes I would go big. I think of this bike as a GT two door coupe with useless back seats.
ADH01 gets slightly more aggressive. A slightly lowered two door GT coupe but with carbon fiber hood upgrade.
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wheelsONfire
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by wheelsONfire on Sun Jun 11, 2023 3:06 pm
zappafile123 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:28 am
SuecoGuatemalteco wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:48 pm
Ferdi77 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:31 pm
Another off topic question for you guys: iam 177cm with 83cm inseam and according to the time size chart, I am clearly a size M. Iam a little bit confused by the long top tube (555) - what do you guys think? Would be the size small the better choice? I think it has a 540 top tube.
For comparison: iam riding a 55 cm bianchi oltre XR4 and had a bikefit on it. It fits perfectly (top tube 549) and has a steeper seat angle (73,5 vs 73cm).
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I'm 173 cm with an inseam of 82 and I also rode a Bianchi Oltre in size 55. I went with the Small sized Time Alpe'd Huez.
All you guys are riding a size too big lol. Medium in Time (for the guy above) is way too big for someone who is only 173 cm. The stack is 562 mm which is gigantic and you've have a a bees dick seat post sticking out with 55cm C-T seattube. You'd end up with a honky position of hardly any saddle to bar drop and sit really high. 178cm is what I would consider the starting height for a M. At 173 cm S ADH works just fine, but I would consider getting an XS to get a proper race position.
I guess everyone's body is different and limb lengths matter, but I would think a 55 Oltre is almost univerasally slightly too big for a person at 173 too.
What about Lance Armstrong which rode a 58 size?
There are dudes riding small bikes and still have a drop like grandma. Also guys who ride higher stack bikes with lots of drop.
But sure, i could scale off 23mm + stack on my bike as i ride a -17 stem.
It would be 560mm stack and 380mm reach for my ideal. Or maximum 390mm reach.
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mathemagician
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by mathemagician on Sun Jun 11, 2023 5:05 pm
Bt248 wrote:Does anyone know if time will make a new stem for the new adh ?
I doubt it, with it being internally routed it makes more sense to use off the shelf components.
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Ferdi77
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by Ferdi77 on Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:53 am
openwheelracing wrote:ADH21 geometry is relaxed and flirts between endurance and race. I think it fits most people well. Most can cut the steerer and slam it yet still ride without hand fatigue or lower back pain. It's weird it feels less stretched than comparable sized bikes. You do sit "higher" though. It works in a weird way perfect for long group rides. Very comfortable. Between sizes I would go big. I think of this bike as a GT two door coupe with useless back seats.
ADH01 gets slightly more aggressive. A slightly lowered two door GT coupe but with carbon fiber hood upgrade.
I think, the Scylon‘s geo is a little bit different than the same size ADH01 as well
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Bt248
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by Bt248 on Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:51 pm
mathemagician wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 5:05 pm
Bt248 wrote:Does anyone know if time will make a new stem for the new adh ?
I doubt it, with it being internally routed it makes more sense to use off the shelf components.
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Such a shame, I really liked their monolink design
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EvilEuro
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by EvilEuro on Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:36 pm
Bt248 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 10:55 am
Does anyone know if time will make a new stem for the new adh ?
I had asked the same question to Time earlier this year and posted about it in Febrary.
Quoting myself from February of this year: "Time says that they are redesigning their stems and handlebars for MY 2024. New bars and stems are supposed to be able to do internal cable routing to clean up the front end."
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inertianinja
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by inertianinja on Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:02 pm
Question about ADH23 thru-axles:
Time's site says they are 120x12 by 1.5mm front, 159x12 by 1.5mm rear.
Actual axles that ship with the bike seem too long - for example, the rear measures 175mm end-to-end, and 165mm with an included 3mm spacer, and sticks out of the rear dropout by 3mm on one side, and 11mm on the other side.
Has anyone gone with shorter thru-axles?