2020 Aethos Sub UCI weight Specialized.
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Thought I'd start a new thread for peoples thoughts/rumours
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Probably an e-bike, fat tire, gravel recumbent.

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it will be crazy light ..
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6.79kg Unicycle is my bet.
Specialized SW Æthos (2021)
Specialized SW Tarmac (2022) 7.1kg
Cervelo P5 Disc (2021) 9.1kg
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
*all weights are race ready bikes, large frame size.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT, Crux
Specialized SW Tarmac (2022) 7.1kg
Cervelo P5 Disc (2021) 9.1kg
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
*all weights are race ready bikes, large frame size.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT, Crux
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Cyclingtips sl7 podcast is interesting. The spesh engineers are mum on it. They know something.
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I'll take a listen later, but there's an interesting quote in the Cyclingtips review of the SL7FactoryMatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:46 amCyclingtips sl7 podcast is interesting. The spesh engineers are mum on it. They know something.
“So currently the Venge in our line right now does not meet much of a need for that rider looking for the performance product.”
Sounds like they've left an opening for something new, and the author even mentions that in their final thoughts.
Does it make sense to change the geometry of the bike that would be otherwice not possible under UCI rules? I can think mostly about seat tube angle which could be higher and therefor move the seat horizontaly closer to BB. In many cases its favorable to move the seatpost more forward as it opens the hip angle and allow more agressive position on the bike but the current geometries prevents it due to rules about minimal seat setback from BB. If the seat tube angle would be changed it would require other changes, longer reach and perhaps even lower stack of the frame.
Functionality > Performance > Weight
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That just ends up being a TT bike with dropbars on though...madik wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:22 amDoes it make sense to change the geometry of the bike that would be otherwice not possible under UCI rules? I can think mostly about seat tube angle which could be higher and therefor move the seat horizontaly closer to BB. In many cases its favorable to move the seatpost more forward as it opens the hip angle and allow more agressive position on the bike but the current geometries prevents it due to rules about minimal seat setback from BB. If the seat tube angle would be changed it would require other changes, longer reach and perhaps even lower stack of the frame.
I'm thinking more like some extreme frame design like the Hope track bike forks matched with a sort of Cervelo P3X frame, maybe some fairings to cover the discs etc.
Some wild Frankenbike
Yeah but 2 years ago they announced their UCI illegal Shiv tri bike. I don't see beam bikes catching on in the road segment and it seems so soon yet to replace the Shiv.Knightyboy27 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:02 am
That just ends up being a TT bike with dropbars on though...
I'm thinking more like some extreme frame design like the Hope track bike forks matched with a sort of Cervelo P3X frame, maybe some fairings to cover the discs etc.
Some wild Frankenbike
Sure it will be closer to a TT bike but the change does not have to be big. Just a small move of the saddle is opening the hip angle quite a bit. But since most of the drag is from the rider then it makes sense to move the rider more forward and lower to improve the overall drag and allow more power to the pedals. Position on the bike also have to be sunstainable and the rear/front weight balance can't change by a huge margin. So I would think the seat tube angle could change lets say from 73.5 (56 Venge) to 74,5 or something similar and keep some seatpost offset to increase compliancy.Knightyboy27 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:02 amThat just ends up being a TT bike with dropbars on though...madik wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:22 amDoes it make sense to change the geometry of the bike that would be otherwice not possible under UCI rules? I can think mostly about seat tube angle which could be higher and therefor move the seat horizontaly closer to BB. In many cases its favorable to move the seatpost more forward as it opens the hip angle and allow more agressive position on the bike but the current geometries prevents it due to rules about minimal seat setback from BB. If the seat tube angle would be changed it would require other changes, longer reach and perhaps even lower stack of the frame.
I'm thinking more like some extreme frame design like the Hope track bike forks matched with a sort of Cervelo P3X frame, maybe some fairings to cover the discs etc.
Some wild Frankenbike
Functionality > Performance > Weight
What a pile of turd.. Doesn't meet the needs.. It's basically the same bike with 100g more weight and an inch more aero. What a bunch of marketing clowns.Knightyboy27 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:52 amI'll take a listen later, but there's an interesting quote in the Cyclingtips review of the SL7FactoryMatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:46 amCyclingtips sl7 podcast is interesting. The spesh engineers are mum on it. They know something.
“So currently the Venge in our line right now does not meet much of a need for that rider looking for the performance product.”
Sounds like they've left an opening for something new, and the author even mentions that in their final thoughts.
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So edgy ....MyM3Coupe wrote:You left out another piece of crap Asian open mold frame with dropped seat stays. I'm in such suspense. Lolz
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