My adventures in chain waxing: goals, reviews, suggestions...

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TobinHatesYou
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by TobinHatesYou

Yep, I wouldn’t want to pull a dripping chain out of a plastic bag, have it drip all over said bag and then place that bag in a pot of boiling water again the next time I want to wax my chain. Just buy a slow cooker for about US$10.

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coresare
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Ok anyone else try waxing and go back to a drip lube due to noise? I don't think I can stand the increased noise anymore.

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coresare wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 5:48 pm
Ok anyone else try waxing and go back to a drip lube due to noise? I don't think I can stand the increased noise anymore.
I was very sensitive to the noise at first but the simple fact is that the ease of waxing and the way my bike doesn't seem to get anywhere near as dirty with a waxed chain as it did with a wet lube won out in the end. I am tolerating a little bit more noise because it's made my maintenance requirements a whole lot easier and less time consuming.

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aosjimzaw wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:29 am
So it either doesn't properly work or you need to buy, what? 100€ crockpots for something completely different than they're designed?
I know it's a bit of a necro but I can't let this just sit there. Brand new name-brand crockpot, the smallest one they make but plenty for chains, literally US$10

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I find the noise to be insignificant in the middle of the cassette and only a minor nuisance when in the 1st and 2nd cogs. It is definitely chattery at extreme chainlines after one or two rides, but so is RnR Gold and other thin dry lubes.

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by coresare

I'm thinking about putting some squirt lube on top of my molten speed waxed chain just to quiet the thing down.

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by ToileySiphon

coresare wrote:I'm thinking about putting some squirt lube on top of my molten speed waxed chain just to quiet the thing down.
Wouldn't this contaminate your MSW bath on your next re-application?

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by coresare

TobinHatesYou wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:06 pm
I find the noise to be insignificant in the middle of the cassette and only a minor nuisance when in the 1st and 2nd cogs. It is definitely chattery at extreme chainlines after one or two rides, but so is RnR Gold and other thin dry lubes.
I find the small chainring noise is fine. Not much different than Squirt. But in the Big chainring even with the chain in the middle of the cassette to the smallest cogs, it's just too noisy.
ToileySiphon wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:07 pm
coresare wrote:I'm thinking about putting some squirt lube on top of my molten speed waxed chain just to quiet the thing down.
Wouldn't this contaminate your MSW bath on your next re-application?

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I was thinking of putting the chain in boiling water and agitating it to clean it before the next waxing. Honestly. I think I just want a Quiet lube that's as clean as possible and non toxic. I don't think I care about saving 1-4 watts. I don't race.
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ToileySiphon wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:07 pm
coresare wrote:I'm thinking about putting some squirt lube on top of my molten speed waxed chain just to quiet the thing down.
Wouldn't this contaminate your MSW bath on your next re-application?

Squirt melts away quite easily, so all you need is a Park chain cleaning tool and some warm/hot water to get the vast majority of it off.

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TobinHatesYou wrote:
Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:21 am

Squirt melts away quite easily, so all you need is a Park chain cleaning tool and some warm/hot water to get the vast majority of it off.
You hot-water clean Smoove/Squirt every 200km then reapply? Sounds tedious

I've been using Squirt + Molten (Hot waxing initially then Squirt after every ride) but just like OP said, I'm annoyed at the sticky residuals stacking up, specially on the rear derailleur. I found Molten much cleaner over the first couple hundreds KM than once I started using Squirt.

Any of the liquid alternatives (Smoove, Rex, even ceramicSpeed) would make it cleaner or they have all the same sticky tendencies?
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Yoln wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:48 pm

You hot-water clean Smoove/Squirt every 200km then reapply? Sounds tedious

I've been using Squirt + Molten (Hot waxing initially then Squirt after every ride) but just like OP said, I'm annoyed at the sticky residuals stacking up, specially on the rear derailleur. I found Molten much cleaner over the first couple hundreds KM than once I started using Squirt.

Any of the liquid alternatives (Smoove, Rex, even ceramicSpeed) would make it cleaner or they have all the same sticky tendencies?

I don't top off with Smoove or Squirt unless I plan on riding in wet conditions (which is almost never.) If I did, I would probably quickly rinse the chain in hot water to get most of the emulsified wax lube off, leaving only harder paraffin from the hot-melt process.

Smoove is slightly gummier/pastier than Squirt. Squirt is more likely to have large chunks of gunk form around the pulleys and in between cogs. UFO Drip is definitely the least gunky of the wax-based lubes. Banana Slip, Tungsten All-Weather and Silca Super Secret are supposedly less gunky than Squirt/Smoove, but I haven't tried them.

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by Yoln

TobinHatesYou wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:03 pm


I don't top off ...
Thanks, lots of useful information. I might try them after the Rex.

Is there such thing as liquid paraffin that would be commercial (not DYI) though? (With organic solvent instead of water I would assume)
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Search OzCycle on YouTube. He has a video on a home-made liquid paraffin lube using alcohol as the solvent.

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by Yoln

pdlpsher1 wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:16 am
Search OzCycle on YouTube. He has a video on a home-made liquid paraffin lube using alcohol as the solvent.

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Thanks, I wonder why there is no commercial versions of the sort available though...
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