Re: 2021 BMC Teammachine
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:03 am
You broke the aluminium computer mount? How did that happened?
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Re: 2021 BMC Teammachine
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:41 pm
Hey everyone! I'm considering BMC Teammachine with ICS cockpit as my next bike and I'm trying to work out the frame sizing. But in order to do that I'd need to know some dimensions of the ICS cockpit, which unfortunately are not listed anywhere on the BMC website. And I don't want to end up with 50mm of spacers under the stem or handlebars too wide.
1. What's the effective stack of the ICS stem? The stem angle is listed as -12, that's fine. But it looks to me that BMC has opted for a stem that's mounted higher and is more inclined. Please refer to the pic below - I'm looking for the length that's painted in green, so from bottom of the stem (center) to handlebars center.
2. How is the handlebars width measured? Center to center or oustside? I'm usually riding 400mm center to center. BMC only offers the 400mm option in 90mm stem length
1. What's the effective stack of the ICS stem? The stem angle is listed as -12, that's fine. But it looks to me that BMC has opted for a stem that's mounted higher and is more inclined. Please refer to the pic below - I'm looking for the length that's painted in green, so from bottom of the stem (center) to handlebars center.
2. How is the handlebars width measured? Center to center or oustside? I'm usually riding 400mm center to center. BMC only offers the 400mm option in 90mm stem length
Re: 2021 BMC Teammachine
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:41 pm
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Re: 2021 BMC Teammachine
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 2:32 pm
The handlebars is meassured center - center. I have a 40cm ICS Cockpit and that is 36cm on the hoods ( slightly inwards ). BMC also offers longer stems for smaller widths - and I ordered mine at Bike24 in Germany. It is called the team edition and on stock in 110 to 140mm, at least the red one. They also have the white /b lack one and completely black one like I have. The stack I have to meassure , but I will do that for you.LordPikaChu wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:41 pmHey everyone! I'm considering BMC Teammachine with ICS cockpit as my next bike and I'm trying to work out the frame sizing. But in order to do that I'd need to know some dimensions of the ICS cockpit, which unfortunately are not listed anywhere on the BMC website. And I don't want to end up with 50mm of spacers under the stem or handlebars too wide.
1. What's the effective stack of the ICS stem? The stem angle is listed as -12, that's fine. But it looks to me that BMC has opted for a stem that's mounted higher and is more inclined. Please refer to the pic below - I'm looking for the length that's painted in green, so from bottom of the stem (center) to handlebars center.
2. How is the handlebars width measured? Center to center or oustside? I'm usually riding 400mm center to center. BMC only offers the 400mm option in 90mm stem length
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Re: 2021 BMC Teammachine
Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:00 pm
Also, if buying new, BMC can replace the handlebar/stem for the size you want.
I bought my frameset, new, via an online store and they sent the handlebar/stem back to BMC and got a replacement with the size I requested.
Re: 2021 BMC Teammachine
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:43 pm
hi guys,
I'm on an endless quest for a new bike...so I was wondering whether it might make sense to get this bike in early '23 halfway through its life cycle.
Considering it was presented in summer 2020, I'm having some doubts.
I'm on an endless quest for a new bike...so I was wondering whether it might make sense to get this bike in early '23 halfway through its life cycle.
Considering it was presented in summer 2020, I'm having some doubts.
Re: 2021 BMC Teammachine
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:20 pm
Using the ICS system on the standard SLR (not SLR01) frame, I assume one can fully internally route all cables (including front caliper hose) through the stem / spacers / headset? Or does the front caliper hose have to stay external?
Re: 2021 BMC Teammachine
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:39 pm
You need the SLR01 fork too because the cables are routed on the sides of the D-shaped steerer
Re: 2021 BMC Teammachine
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:58 pm
Thanks.StiffWeenies wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:39 pmYou need the SLR01 fork too because the cables are routed on the sides of the D-shaped steerer
That's not something they publicise when claiming that the normal SLR is compatible with the ICS system
That's the end of that idea. I'd like to use the ICS MTT stem, since roads are so shitty, and I'm not sure how well a 3D printed ICS to ACR or DCR spacer would work on other bikes - and one doesn't yet exist, so I'd need to produce it.
Re: 2021 BMC Teammachine
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:24 pm
The Red rear brake on mine feels perpetually spongy despite one rehosing and countless rebleedings. You also can't run the bars as slammed as setups where the cables are routed in front of the steerer. It's honestly not a good cable routing system which is understandable because it dates back to the very first fully integrated disc bike ever launched.RDY wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:58 pmThanks.StiffWeenies wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:39 pmYou need the SLR01 fork too because the cables are routed on the sides of the D-shaped steerer
That's not something they publicise when claiming that the normal SLR is compatible with the ICS system
That's the end of that idea. I'd like to use the ICS MTT stem, since roads are so shitty, and I'm not sure how well a 3D printed ICS to ACR or DCR spacer would work on other bikes - and one doesn't yet exist, so I'd need to produce it.
I think the FSA ACR spacer should be fine, coming from a big company it better be dependable. I believe you'd still need the SLR01 fork for that application though.
Re: 2021 BMC Teammachine
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:36 pm
a) I'm not sure about its impact on brake hose functionality with routing.StiffWeenies wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:24 pmThe Red rear brake on mine feels perpetually spongy despite one rehosing and countless rebleedings. You also can't run the bars as slammed as setups where the cables are routed in front of the steerer. It's honestly not a good cable routing system which is understandable because it dates back to the very first fully integrated disc bike ever launched.RDY wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:58 pmThanks.StiffWeenies wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:39 pmYou need the SLR01 fork too because the cables are routed on the sides of the D-shaped steerer
That's not something they publicise when claiming that the normal SLR is compatible with the ICS system
That's the end of that idea. I'd like to use the ICS MTT stem, since roads are so shitty, and I'm not sure how well a 3D printed ICS to ACR or DCR spacer would work on other bikes - and one doesn't yet exist, so I'd need to produce it.
I think the FSA ACR spacer should be fine, coming from a big company it better be dependable. I believe you'd still need the SLR01 fork for that application though.
b) Forks are difficult to get hold of and make the whole enterprise a lot more expensive. And the cost of the SLR01 framesets are ludicrous IMO. So I meant using the ICS MTT stem with any other frame using the IS52 / IS52 standard and an ACR or DCR headset and top cover / spacers - I.E. I'd need to get an ICS (stem side) to ACR / DCR (headset side) adapter made. Tbh I'm surprised they don't exist already.
Re: 2021 BMC Teammachine
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:20 pm
@StiffWeenies - I meant to ask, is the latest TeamMachine SLR01 still using the ******* up bolt threaded into foam in the steerer thing? Or did that change after the fork failures and recall?
Re: 2021 BMC Teammachine
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:22 am
Re: 2021 BMC Teammachine
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:13 pm
I looked at the MY21 manual (assume no change for '22 / '23). Oof ... that thing looks so dangerous. I dunno how they got away with sticking to that after the recall, and not using a bonded insert. Crazy. What's your view on it?
Re: 2021 BMC Teammachine
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:02 pm
I bought it back when I knew a lot less about how bikes worked. Thankfully I handed off assembly to the LBS mechanic instead of attempting to do it myself. One overtorque and the foam will break off.RDY wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:13 pmI looked at the MY21 manual (assume no change for '22 / '23). Oof ... that thing looks so dangerous. I dunno how they got away with sticking to that after the recall, and not using a bonded insert. Crazy. What's your view on it?
Re: 2021 BMC Teammachine
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:49 pm
Or presumably any significant compression or decompression of the front end ... it's frankly unbelievable that they 1) thought it would be a good idea and then put it into production and 2) have been able to get away with it without the cycling community and media screaming bloody murder ... and that's AFTER a recall which had a high probability of mortal consequences during failure.StiffWeenies wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:02 pmI bought it back when I knew a lot less about how bikes worked. Thankfully I handed off assembly to the LBS mechanic instead of attempting to do it myself. One overtorque and the foam will break off.RDY wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:13 pmI looked at the MY21 manual (assume no change for '22 / '23). Oof ... that thing looks so dangerous. I dunno how they got away with sticking to that after the recall, and not using a bonded insert. Crazy. What's your view on it?
Re: 2021 BMC Teammachine
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:49 pm
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