New Giant TCR Advanced announced

[guadzilla]

The serviceability excuse is a horrible excuse. You're basically telling everyone forget the Defy and Propel because you'll have a hard time servicing it, BUT NOT THIS ONE!

No, they are giving people CHOICES. You want concealed cables, you get the Propel. You want easy to service/easy to travel - get the TCR. Especially as full concealed cables are going to add weight to the frame, which probably matters more for a climbing bike than exposed cables.

On this thread alone, you see plenty of people who appreciate having this choice - myself included. I get that this doesnt work for everyone - but you cant make a bike that is perfect for everyone.

[rob86]

I would take the new TCR cables any day over the Defy and Propel. The only way Giant were able to hide the cables and hoses was by replacing a lightweight road stem with something resembling an aircraft carrier.

This!

No other brand succeeds in making a full integrated cockpit as lean as a non integrated one. Giant does even a very bad job with the propel but even other brands, its always bulky with plastic caps all over. No, I prefer this way. With a contact slr integrated combo it looks very lean and slick (like the aeroad).

[kgt]

The only modern climbing bike I can think of that has integrated cables and a slim stem is the new Ridley Helium. I don't know how they did it and how well it works but I would still prefer the TCR.

[rides4beer]

https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/tcr

No framesets listed, and no rim-brake SL listed. Not sure if that's gonna change.

Japan website.....disc and rim brakes https://www.giant.co.jp/giant20/bike_se ... _code=SR38

Yes, I was pointing out that they're not listed on the US site.

[Karvalo]

That Ridley is remarkably clean. First reaction was that it must have been photoshopped! Just looked up the manual and it sounds like an absolute ballache to build and you'll have to rebuild it completely in order to make any adjustments. Comes right out and say you're going to need two people just to put it together. For sure it looks nice but give me cables on the outside anyday.

[IvanZg]

Ridley's using D shaped steerer tube so integration looks neat.

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[Unniti]

Fully integrated cables look really good on Instagram and marketing shots. But dealing with them is a pain in the ass. Even one piece barstems are annoying if you travel frequently with a bike.

Giant has two bikes with integrated cables, if you want a bike with them they are providing that option. This one is their climbing bike and you'd think people on WW would appreciate them keeping it light. Integrating the cables would add more weight to the frame. They also haven't dropped the stays, not that they aren't already pretty damn low with how sloped the TT is. They're even providing rim brake version of the frame. It's almost everything WW has collectively cried for over the last couple of years when complaining about new frames. Unique looking, lightweight, rim brakes, no dropped stays. And now two exposed cables are a problem. I'd even bet rim brakes almost necessitate exposed cabling because they'd feel awful with all the tight bends that practically all fully integrated setups have.

[3Pio]

Fully integrated cables look really good on Instagram and marketing shots. But dealing with them is a pain in the ass. Even one piece barstems are annoying if you travel frequently with a bike.

Giant has two bikes with integrated cables, if you want a bike with them they are providing that option. This one is their climbing bike and you'd think people on WW would appreciate them keeping it light. Integrating the cables would add more weight to the frame. They also haven't dropped the stays, not that they aren't already pretty damn low with how sloped the TT is. They're even providing rim brake version of the frame. It's almost everything WW has collectively cried for over the last couple of years when complaining about new frames. Unique looking, lightweight, rim brakes, no dropped stays. And now two exposed cables are a problem. I'd even bet rim brakes almost necessitate exposed cabling because they'd feel awful with all the tight bends that practically all fully integrated setups have.

I like what they done here.. Really.. Real engineering, and not marketing things like integrated cables, disc only option, or dropped stays... Kudos for Giant on this.. If someone make something like this but non propriety seatpost, regular stem diameter im all in... But even this is good enough to be my next bike (rim brake version of course)....

[chorus88]

https://cyclingtips.com/2020/04/2021-gi ... evolution/

2020 vs 2021 GEOMETRY


2021 GEOMETRY (see attachment)

[andychampionsound]

2020 vs 2021 GEOMETRY


2021 GEOMETRY (see attachment)

this is exactly the solution to my dilemmas with the 2020 M/L sizing. slightly gutted that they've finally sorted it out now.

[Nefarious86]

DM rim brakes would have been fantastic to see..

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[kgt]

This would add weight too for no considerable advantage.

[ichobi]

Actually dm makes for a lighter bike since you dont have to make brake bridge and add reinforcement at the seatstay and at the front forks.

[shotgun]

I made my reservations on a SL Disc last month, but it looks like I've hit a snag. The Advanced SL Disc will only accept electronic (Di2 or AXS) shifting. I just updated to H11 and Bora Discs last year.

LBS did offer an excellent deal for that Advanced SL0 Dics with AXS, but with this pandemic, I'm not sure it's prudent nor right to dish out money for a new bike.

[Stoffa]

Why why why no dm brakes Giant??