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Mostlyharmless
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by Mostlyharmless on Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:52 pm
Oh okay. I’m currently using Sram Red cassette which weights 158g. Seems like shaving weight on cassettes do cause eternal problems sometimes. I’ll just stick with Red then
BikeEatSleepRepeat wrote:Mostlyharmless wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:31 pm
Omni titanium cassette and Seqlite aluminum cassette, both weight less than 120g at 11-28t, shift pretty good with electronic shifting, not sure about mechanical. Rotor Uno cassette, at weight range of 120-130g, but have seen failures
Speaking from experience with a mechanical drivetrain, I would NOT recommened the Omni cassettes to anyone under any circumstance.
Before the sale, he will claim all day they are the better of DuraAce and Super Record and tout his guarantee of it, that is, until you call him on it and then he has a mile of excuses to hide behind and not honor his word.
They shift like crap due to poor construction and odd/too wide cog jumps.
Avoid like the plague or prepare to be burned.
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seismic
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by seismic on Sun Mar 08, 2020 2:14 am
Hi All,
Thank you very much for your input on cassette alternatives to DA/SRAM. I am currently looking around at all the recommendations, and based on the input in this thread and reviews poted in general on the internet, it looks very much like there are quite a few compromises if going ahead with anything else than DA and SRAM (shifting issues and durability). However, I am intrigued by a few of the options so may try a few out....
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bilwit
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by bilwit on Sun Mar 08, 2020 2:50 am
BDop (steel) for me too. In fact I trust it even more than stock Shimano since the design makes it less susceptible to chewing up my freehub body like Dura Ace does. Kind of hard to get though so I only use it on special occasion
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RichardL
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by RichardL on Sun Mar 08, 2020 3:29 pm
alanyu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:11 pm
If you want the shift quality, give ZTTO SLR a go.
Any experience with ZTTO SLR2 in terms of shift quality and durability?
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long19000
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by long19000 on Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:28 pm
I have been using the Recon "One-piece Cr-Mo Cassette" for my 11sp campy super record and shifting is nearly perfect.
I can confirm the Recon cassette is the former Edco monoblock.
Hope it helps!
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kroem
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by kroem on Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:29 pm
RichardL wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 3:29 pm
alanyu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:11 pm
If you want the shift quality, give ZTTO SLR a go.
Any experience with ZTTO SLR2 in terms of shift quality and durability?
Anyone?
There's also a Sroad SLR2 alternative. Maybe better?
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jch3n
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by jch3n on Sat Sep 12, 2020 5:37 pm
kroem wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:29 pm
RichardL wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 3:29 pm
alanyu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:11 pm
If you want the shift quality, give ZTTO SLR a go.
Any experience with ZTTO SLR2 in terms of shift quality and durability?
Anyone?
There's also a Sroad SLR2 alternative. Maybe better?
I've got ~1400km on an 11-28t SLR2 so far, which admittedly isn't very much, but it shifts just fine and doesn't look any worse for wear. I think long term durability for any cassette depends on a lot of factors such as how often you change your chain, how clean you keep your drivetrain, whether you mash or spin, etc.
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wheelsONfire
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by wheelsONfire on Sat Sep 12, 2020 5:57 pm
Rotor.....
Bikes:
Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2019.01.03)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Ex bike; Vial EVO D, Vial EVO Ultra, Scott Foil, Paduano ti bike.
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RichardL
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by RichardL on Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:51 pm
kroem wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:29 pm
There's also a Sroad SLR2 alternative. Maybe better?
I got quite a few km's on my ZTTO SLR2 11-36T, and shifting has been great with DA 9150 Di2 rear derailleur. Very little sign of wear.
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Keykey1985
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by Keykey1985 on Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:30 am
RichardL wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 3:29 pm
alanyu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:11 pm
If you want the shift quality, give ZTTO SLR a go.
Any experience with ZTTO SLR2 in terms of shift quality and durability?
I'm using the Sunshine SZ 11-28 which I think is the same as the ZTTO SLR2. Have about 3700km on it and providing I keep on top of chain maintenance I find the cassette to be almost as good as Shimano if you're spot on with indexing. Only issue is occasional hesitation going in or out of the 12t.
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Yoln
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by Yoln on Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:00 pm
Honestly only recon is at par with shifting quality of shimano, I've had very bad experience with ZTTO, they qre light and work, but shifting is tedious to say the least
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stringbean
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RichardL
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by RichardL on Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:38 pm
Yoln wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:00 pm
Honestly only recon is at par with shifting quality of shimano, I've had very bad experience with ZTTO, they qre light and work, but shifting is tedious to say the least
Recon aluminum shifts like crap, even on Dura-Ace Di2. ZTTO SLR2 shifts as smooth as butter.
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takolino
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by takolino on Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:43 pm
+1 on the JjGbike/Sroad. They seem close to the Sram, made in a similar way as sone piece machined steel. Slightly heavier but not by much. More sizes seem to be on the way as seen on Amazon. Price is really good compared to Sram XG1190. Also have wider range options but spacing is not ideal for road. I wish they had tighter spacing on the smaller cogs. What I really want is a 11-36 with 11-12-13- for 1X to run with 50t chainring.
I tried ZTTO and they skipped on my first ride with new chain. This was on the smaller steel cogs. Maybe their tolerances are not that great. I've heard that the Rotor aluminum cogs wear out sooner than steel which makes sense. Hard to beat the XG1190 in shifting, weight and durability but I guess you get what you pay for.