Farsports F1 Integrated Handlebar/Stem

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montee
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by montee

Based on recent customer service experience I'd avoid Yoeleo. Bars not received so can't say if they are any good.
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by zappafile123

HeluvaSkier wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2023 2:49 pm
montee wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2023 10:12 am
Notwithstanding the snapped example above - which is kind of alarming - are these still the best priced option for a "reputable" integrated aero bar/stem? What others are worth looking at, without resorting to no-name Aliexpress roulette? How does the Yoeleo H10 compare, for example?
Aside from Farsports F1...

The One (I have the most updated 2022 version on two bikes and love them... recently crashed one of the bikes and they held up like a champ): viewtopic.php?f=3&t=171981&start=45
EXS (way overpriced IMO, not easily distinguishable from The One...possibly the same rebranded, I'd buy Farsports over this if you have a burning desire to spend over $300): viewtopic.php?f=3&t=170466

I would also trust:
Seka
Winspace
Yoeleo
Elves (next tier down in terms of cost, but seems reputable and is making eforts to set up a distribution network, so I'd add these to the mix as "worth a try")
I have the F1 and EXS. EXS are hands down the better bar - better shape, more comfortable, lighter. When I can be bothered I'll write a proper review. TLDR is the shape of the F1 tops are just unpleasant to hold. Cable routing a mech drivetrain was a terrible experience and I would outright not recommend the first gen F1 for mech as there is distinct negative impact on shifting smoothness. F1S bars should in principle be slighly better as the routing angle for the cables is shallower (not a right angle). Otherwise the F1 finish is night and the weight is ok.
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by tonimartini

tonimartini wrote:
Wed Sep 27, 2023 4:27 am
208 wrote:
Tue Sep 26, 2023 5:39 pm
What's the difference in width between the drops and the tops on the F1s?
It does not flare out. My 400x110 F1s measures 400 at the tops and at the bar ends, unlike the EXS or some of the other brands that are typically +20mm wider at the ends. In terms of weight, mine came in at 365 grams including the shim and the computer mount.

One thing to keep in mind is that the F1s has 75mm reach and 125mm drop compared to the 73mm/128mm that's listed on their website which are the measurements for their old F1 model. On the flipside, the cutout for the cables is bigger which means internal routing a bit easier.
Actually... it does flare out! I measured it this morning, and sure enough, it's +20mm wider center-to-center at the bar ends compared to the tops where the shifters mount. Sorry I gave you wrong answer previously! I could have sworn the bar was straight, and the flare is not noticeable. Not sure what exactly the point of the flare is because when I ride in the drops, I grab the bar closer to where the bend is so I can shift or brake with my fingers. I'm definitely not holding the bar at the bar ends where a slightly wider bar might give you a bit more leverage during a sprint.

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by ultreia

HeluvaSkier wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2023 2:49 pm

The One (I have the most updated 2022 version on two bikes and love them... recently crashed one of the bikes and they held up like a champ): viewtopic.php?f=3&t=171981&start=45
EXS (way overpriced IMO, not easily distinguishable from The One...possibly the same rebranded, I'd buy Farsports over this if you have a burning desire to spend over $300): viewtopic.php?f=3&t=170466
The One borrowed the shape of EXS, if not completely almost 100% but it uses another carbon fibers. The good thing about The One and its shape it is that there are a lot of cheaper brands doing the same handlebar for almost 50% of The One price right now.

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by LanceLegstrong

ultreia wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2023 8:57 am
HeluvaSkier wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2023 2:49 pm

The One (I have the most updated 2022 version on two bikes and love them... recently crashed one of the bikes and they held up like a champ): viewtopic.php?f=3&t=171981&start=45
EXS (way overpriced IMO, not easily distinguishable from The One...possibly the same rebranded, I'd buy Farsports over this if you have a burning desire to spend over $300): viewtopic.php?f=3&t=170466
The One borrowed the shape of EXS, if not completely almost 100% but it uses another carbon fibers. The good thing about The One and its shape it is that there are a lot of cheaper brands doing the same handlebar for almost 50% of The One price right now.
Yea, I have the Kocevlo version. Picked it up for like $80 USD. It's been on the crit bike all season and I have no complaints other than I wish they had a 130 stem option. Plenty stiff.
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by Littlefield82

First post here, but have been lurking a while. I purchased a Polygon Helios A8x a few months ago and it came with a Metron 5D ACR bar (110mm x 410mm). I quickly learned that this bar has me too stretched out on the bike especially since the forward bend in the bars adds at least another 20mm to the overall distance to the hoods as compared to a bar that is just straight across. Just this morning I ordered a F1s bar (80mm x 400mm) from Farsports for $350 shipped using a coupon code to get $50 off the $400 list price. I emailed back and forth a few times with their customer service to make sure that the bar was comaptible with the Helios frame and it turns out that I don't need the custom F1 spacer. I also have wireless Di2 so I only need to route the brake hoses and no extra wires. Once it comes in I'll post pics and measurements. Another thing to add is that the 110mm on the Metron bar is measured to the center of the main cross bar, and the 80mm on the F1s bar is measured back about 5-10mm of center, therefore making the F1s 80mm bar more like a 90mm bar measured to the center of the main cross bar.

Hope this info helps someone out if they are cross shopping bars.

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by toxin

ultreia wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2023 8:57 am
HeluvaSkier wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2023 2:49 pm

The One (I have the most updated 2022 version on two bikes and love them... recently crashed one of the bikes and they held up like a champ): viewtopic.php?f=3&t=171981&start=45
EXS (way overpriced IMO, not easily distinguishable from The One...possibly the same rebranded, I'd buy Farsports over this if you have a burning desire to spend over $300): viewtopic.php?f=3&t=170466
The One borrowed the shape of EXS, if not completely almost 100% but it uses another carbon fibers. The good thing about The One and its shape it is that there are a lot of cheaper brands doing the same handlebar for almost 50% of The One price right now.
What are you waffling on about? They're not the same at all, use your eyes

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by alanyu

toxin wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2023 4:26 pm
ultreia wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2023 8:57 am
HeluvaSkier wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2023 2:49 pm

The One (I have the most updated 2022 version on two bikes and love them... recently crashed one of the bikes and they held up like a champ): viewtopic.php?f=3&t=171981&start=45
EXS (way overpriced IMO, not easily distinguishable from The One...possibly the same rebranded, I'd buy Farsports over this if you have a burning desire to spend over $300): viewtopic.php?f=3&t=170466
The One borrowed the shape of EXS, if not completely almost 100% but it uses another carbon fibers. The good thing about The One and its shape it is that there are a lot of cheaper brands doing the same handlebar for almost 50% of The One price right now.
What are you waffling on about? They're not the same at all, use your eyes
The one gen 1 was mainly designed by Kirito, the founder of EXS

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by Aryeh

They must be somehow connected. When I sent payment via PayPal for my F1S, the email I got from PayPal said I sent the payment to EXS-Cycling. They have since updated the name on that PayPal account.

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by alanyu

I have shared the whole story of their PayPal account in this forum, but forgot in this thread or EXS thread...

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by toxin

alanyu wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2023 4:41 pm
toxin wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2023 4:26 pm
ultreia wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2023 8:57 am
HeluvaSkier wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2023 2:49 pm

The One (I have the most updated 2022 version on two bikes and love them... recently crashed one of the bikes and they held up like a champ): viewtopic.php?f=3&t=171981&start=45
EXS (way overpriced IMO, not easily distinguishable from The One...possibly the same rebranded, I'd buy Farsports over this if you have a burning desire to spend over $300): viewtopic.php?f=3&t=170466
The One borrowed the shape of EXS, if not completely almost 100% but it uses another carbon fibers. The good thing about The One and its shape it is that there are a lot of cheaper brands doing the same handlebar for almost 50% of The One price right now.
What are you waffling on about? They're not the same at all, use your eyes
The one gen 1 was mainly designed by Kirito, the founder of EXS
Sure, but they're still two very clearly different products

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by 208

tonimartini wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2023 4:27 am
tonimartini wrote:
Wed Sep 27, 2023 4:27 am
208 wrote:
Tue Sep 26, 2023 5:39 pm
What's the difference in width between the drops and the tops on the F1s?
It does not flare out. My 400x110 F1s measures 400 at the tops and at the bar ends, unlike the EXS or some of the other brands that are typically +20mm wider at the ends. In terms of weight, mine came in at 365 grams including the shim and the computer mount.

One thing to keep in mind is that the F1s has 75mm reach and 125mm drop compared to the 73mm/128mm that's listed on their website which are the measurements for their old F1 model. On the flipside, the cutout for the cables is bigger which means internal routing a bit easier.
Actually... it does flare out! I measured it this morning, and sure enough, it's +20mm wider center-to-center at the bar ends compared to the tops where the shifters mount. Sorry I gave you wrong answer previously! I could have sworn the bar was straight, and the flare is not noticeable. Not sure what exactly the point of the flare is because when I ride in the drops, I grab the bar closer to where the bend is so I can shift or brake with my fingers. I'm definitely not holding the bar at the bar ends where a slightly wider bar might give you a bit more leverage during a sprint.
Thanks for that mate. Appreciate it.

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by StiffWeenies

new Farsports F1x shown at '23 Rouleur Live, 400x100 sub-300g
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Farsports are now in the crankset business too. They're manufacturing for Neutron, a newly revived brand (went defunct sometime in '20 IIRC) best known for horrific failures of cranks OEMed by Jiankun (who now make Onirii Fire, Racework...)
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by Eterna7m

https://www.neutron.bike/products/crank ... powermeter
Hm, I don't know. Is that really the page? Quite the lack of information. Are you sure this is made by farsports ?

So this crankset itself has already been available in 2020 when I look at their IG. according to some chinertown post the company ceased to exist in the meanwhile...

The madone "Hommage" they had there is also funny.

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by Littlefield82

Has anyone had issues getting their headset to tighten up with the F1s? I removed a Metron 5D and used everything from the F1s kit including the round piece that mates to upper headset bearing. The issue I'm having is that the little round piece doesn't sit as tight inside the bearing rim as the piece did with Metron bar.

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