2020 Specialized Tarmac SL7

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wolflikeme
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by wolflikeme

Very weird sizing, I'll probably stick to my current set up (100x380).

Sworks Tarmac SL8 - 7.09kg
LS Ultimate (7.89kg), Tarmac SL7 (7.56kg), Aethos (7.00kg), Venge (7.59 kg), Roubaix Team (7.53 kg) - Sold

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by AJS914

MarkMcM, thanks for answering my questions! I'm trying to decide if I should give it a go with 12 speed Chorus or Record or just buy some Rival etap parts and a Quarq power meter.

Ok, last question - has anyone ever installed mechanical disc calipers on an SL7?

I actually have a spare 11 speed Campagnolo groupset on hand. (Though, I imagine it would be better to just sell the 11 speed stuff and go 12 on a new bike.)

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voicycle wrote:
Thu Jun 08, 2023 7:16 pm
keno190 wrote:
Thu Jun 08, 2023 6:58 pm
voicycle wrote:
Thu Jun 08, 2023 6:56 pm
Thanks Keno, exciting!

Can you share what US pricing was? (RRP is fine if you're not willing to share what you were actually charged).
$600 retail USD. $657 after taxes. Shipping to LA. +an extra $65 after taxes for the computer mount! :shock:
Thanks! I probably should have done a quick search first. Seems they're live here on the UK website too (with all sizes out of stock). £475.

Probably not for me though as I'm 110x380. My three nearest options are 90x380, 110x400, and 115x380. I could make do with the 115 I guess, but I think I'd rather keep my current fit.

I've also got the TT clip-ons and those clearly aren't compatible with the new bar. I do wonder if they'll release a totally new version now though. The current ones are from the OG Venge I think (or the Vias at the very least).
Wow. Perfect for me at 110,420. I just re taped my sl7. Trying to resist buying!

Edit - gone! Looks great though!

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by Sanders2177

I have order a 120x400 in the new Roval Rapide Integrated cockpit today.
however I have questions as well regarding stem to spacer transition. Existing spacer will not work however the pros riding and testing appear to have suitable spacers even though one set is obviously a diffrent prototype although Lorean Wiebes look the same 🤔. Be a shame to send it back or keep them until I get the frame that fits 😜
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by Sanders2177

keno190 wrote:
Thu Jun 08, 2023 6:39 pm
New rapide one piece cockpit is now available in the US. Limited sizes on spec usa site but fortunately was able to order the smallest one (38x75) since I'm a small boy and after several bike fits need a shorter reach.

Will report when I get it and see if it comes with additional spacers and such since the bottom seems like it won't fit the current set-up. Could be wrong but we shall see!



I have the same question regarding spacer set up. I have put up photos on this forum with the pros running spacers that work for the bars on SL7. Get my bars next week but gonna call specialized and see what they say
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by Sanders2177

Ok there are spacers part No: 232500001 HDS SUB, ROVAL RAPIDE HEADSET TRANSITION FOR TARMAC SL7. Apparently not available until August/September
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by Jz91

Is it possible to run those cables internally?

The external routing doesn't meet expectations imo.

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by chorus88

Was offered 2023 SL7 Comp 105 Di2 with Roval C38 wheelset for $7000 CAD.
Good deal??
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by voicycle

chorus88 wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:48 pm
Was offered 2023 SL7 Comp 105 Di2 with Roval C38 wheelset for $7000 CAD.
Good deal??
Not sure about Canadian pricing. What was RRP for the 2022 Expert model? That was Ultegra Di2 (12sp) with the same C38 wheels. So you're being offered a 2022 Expert model with a one-tier lower groupset. Can you still find a 2022 Expert model in your size in a colour you like? How much more would that be?

I'd be looking at both the RRP and the actual price-you-can-find-today for both groupsets to see the difference between them. In the UK RRP difference looks like £574

Or to look at it the other way I'd be looking at the actual price-you-can-find-today for the C38 wheelset. Would it be worth it to you to buy the standard Comp model, buy the C38 wheels and then have a spare alloy wheelset? Or could you sell the alloys and buy the C38s for the same total outlay?

The issue for me when looking at 2022 Expert was the C38s weren't actually the wheels I wanted for the bike. Worth considering that too. As above, what would it cost you to buy a set of wheels you actually want? And would it be helpful to have the alloys as spares or could you sell them to offset your cost a bit?

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by voicycle

voicycle wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2023 3:53 pm
chorus88 wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:48 pm
Was offered 2023 SL7 Comp 105 Di2 with Roval C38 wheelset for $7000 CAD.
Good deal??
Not sure about Canadian pricing. What was RRP for the 2022 Expert model? That was Ultegra Di2 (12sp) with the same C38 wheels. So you're being offered a 2022 Expert model with a one-tier lower groupset. Can you still find a 2022 Expert model in your size in a colour you like? How much more would that be?

I'd be looking at both the RRP and the actual price-you-can-find-today for both groupsets to see the difference between them. In the UK RRP difference looks like £574

Or to look at it the other way I'd be looking at the actual price-you-can-find-today for the C38 wheelset. Would it be worth it to you to buy the standard Comp model, buy the C38 wheels and then have a spare alloy wheelset? Or could you sell the alloys and buy the C38s for the same total outlay?

The issue for me when looking at 2022 Expert was the C38s weren't actually the wheels I wanted for the bike. Worth considering that too. As above, what would it cost you to buy a set of wheels you actually want? And would it be helpful to have the alloys as spares or could you sell them to offset your cost a bit?
Just loaded the Canadian site and thought about it another way. RRP on Comp 105di2 is $6499. RRP on C38 wheelset is $1400. Guessing the DT alloy wheels are about $300. So if you were going to buy Comp anyway and you think you can sell the C38s for more than $800 then its worth it whether you want the wheels or not ($7000 minus $800 = $6200 without wheels or $6500 with similar spec alloys, so that's your break-even point).

Best price I see here for C38 wheelset is 36% discount off RRP though so if it's similar where you are then that would be $868 - probably means you'd have to sell your set a good few percent cheaper and maybe soils the value proposition. Particularly if you've got to put in the effort of making secondhand sales and setting up new wheels etc.

I'd say sounds like a good deal if you want those wheels AND you can't find Comp 105 at a discount anywhere else without them. If you don't want those wheels and/or you can get the standard Comp 105 model at even 5-10% discount then you're probably best passing on the C38 upgrade offer.

(I'm assuming we're talking about brand new from a retailer with full warranty here - if that's a secondhand offer then definitely walk away!)

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voicycle wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2023 4:10 pm
voicycle wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2023 3:53 pm
chorus88 wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:48 pm
Was offered 2023 SL7 Comp 105 Di2 with Roval C38 wheelset for $7000 CAD.
Good deal??
Not sure about Canadian pricing. What was RRP for the 2022 Expert model? That was Ultegra Di2 (12sp) with the same C38 wheels. So you're being offered a 2022 Expert model with a one-tier lower groupset. Can you still find a 2022 Expert model in your size in a colour you like? How much more would that be?

I'd be looking at both the RRP and the actual price-you-can-find-today for both groupsets to see the difference between them. In the UK RRP difference looks like £574

Or to look at it the other way I'd be looking at the actual price-you-can-find-today for the C38 wheelset. Would it be worth it to you to buy the standard Comp model, buy the C38 wheels and then have a spare alloy wheelset? Or could you sell the alloys and buy the C38s for the same total outlay?

The issue for me when looking at 2022 Expert was the C38s weren't actually the wheels I wanted for the bike. Worth considering that too. As above, what would it cost you to buy a set of wheels you actually want? And would it be helpful to have the alloys as spares or could you sell them to offset your cost a bit?
Just loaded the Canadian site and thought about it another way. RRP on Comp 105di2 is $6499. RRP on C38 wheelset is $1400. Guessing the DT alloy wheels are about $300. So if you were going to buy Comp anyway and you think you can sell the C38s for more than $800 then its worth it whether you want the wheels or not ($7000 minus $800 = $6200 without wheels or $6500 with similar spec alloys, so that's your break-even point).

Best price I see here for C38 wheelset is 36% discount off RRP though so if it's similar where you are then that would be $868 - probably means you'd have to sell your set a good few percent cheaper and maybe soils the value proposition. Particularly if you've got to put in the effort of making secondhand sales and setting up new wheels etc.

I'd say sounds like a good deal if you want those wheels AND you can't find Comp 105 at a discount anywhere else without them. If you don't want those wheels and/or you can get the standard Comp 105 model at even 5-10% discount then you're probably best passing on the C38 upgrade offer.

(I'm assuming we're talking about brand new from a retailer with full warranty here - if that's a secondhand offer then definitely walk away!)
Thanks for the reply.
Just purchased a size 52 SL7 Ultegra Di2 from my LBS.
Spesh Canada reduced the SL7 ULT Di2 to $7500 CAD
Converting $6425 USD to pay for this!
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by ODC

adriant wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2023 11:45 am
More photos here https://bikerumor.com/all-new-roval-rap ... one-piece/
First of all i can confirm that in Belgium the adapter/spacer isn’t included with the handlebar. Ridiculous isn’t’?
The special spacer would be available in July they said.

Also my dealer needed to look if the handlebar will ever suit on my Tarmac SL7. I say this because my stem is slammed and the Tarmac stem has a stack height of +-30mm but this Roval Rapide cockpit has a stack height of 40mm.
Conclusion: i can not fit this handlebar because my steering tube/fork is cut to short for installing this handlebar.
So everyone that doesn’t have 1cm spacer above or under the Tarmac stem can not install this handlebar anymore.

Personally i find that this is something that Specialized need to mention because otherwise you gonna buy something that is not going to fit.

And buying a new fork just for this handlebar is not going to happen so it’s gonna be a SL8 thing for me.

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scottydonald
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ODC wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2023 8:57 pm
adriant wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2023 11:45 am
More photos here https://bikerumor.com/all-new-roval-rap ... one-piece/
First of all i can confirm that in Belgium the adapter/spacer isn’t included with the handlebar. Ridiculous isn’t’?
The special spacer would be available in July they said.

Also my dealer needed to look if the handlebar will ever suit on my Tarmac SL7. I say this because my stem is slammed and the Tarmac stem has a stack height of +-30mm but this Roval Rapide cockpit has a stack height of 40mm.
Conclusion: i can not fit this handlebar because my steering tube/fork is cut to short for installing this handlebar.
So everyone that doesn’t have 1cm spacer above or under the Tarmac stem can not install this handlebar anymore.

Personally i find that this is something that Specialized need to mention because otherwise you gonna buy something that is not going to fit.

And buying a new fork just for this handlebar is not going to happen so it’s gonna be a SL8 thing for me.
Wow. I am slammed so screwed.

We need someone to try it here.

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