Deda Alanera DCR 2020

[MarshMellow]

Try these places, worst case scenario buy another Vinci stem, keep the spacer(s) you need and sell the remaining on ebay.



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Alanera and Vinci are not the same fitting parts; Alanera and Superbox use the same parts.

https://www.ebay.com/usr/velossimo recently has listed Alanera/Superbox topcaps for their D-Shape steer tube.

[milanv]

Thank you, I contacted Deda support, they were very helpfull and made special items in their eshop to can buy.
So I have them.

Another break point - I have measured the combo and 120 stem looks like cca 130... I am not very happy...

Have you measured yours?
There are not pictures with geometry to clarify, how it is measured in Deda.

[wickedstealthy]

Thank you, I contacted Deda support, they were very helpfull and made special items in their eshop to can buy.
So I have them.

Another break point - I have measured the combo and 120 stem looks like cca 130... I am not very happy...

Have you measured yours?
There are not pictures with geometry to clarify, how it is measured in Deda.

Mmmm that would mean I need to go to a 90-400mm. But this looks like the farsport dimensions. They have a similar 'problem' but the reach there seems shorter. So in total its the same. Maybe this is also the case with the Deda

[MarshMellow]

Thank you, I contacted Deda support, they were very helpfull and made special items in their eshop to can buy.
So I have them.

Another break point - I have measured the combo and 120 stem looks like cca 130... I am not very happy...

Have you measured yours?
There are not pictures with geometry to clarify, how it is measured in Deda.

If Deda Elementi components - you're just not measuring correctly.

These are 3 different Deda stems. Length goes from Steerer-center to H-Bar-center. Sometimes the handlebar clamp are a greater-radius into the stem, Vinci for example.

If your measuring generic crap bought off of gray-market sites, good luck to you.

[engsohere]

Try these places, worst case scenario buy another Vinci stem, keep the spacer(s) you need and sell the remaining on ebay.



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Alanera and Vinci are not the same fitting parts; Alanera and Superbox use the same parts.

https://www.ebay.com/usr/velossimo recently has listed Alanera/Superbox topcaps for their D-Shape steer tube.

My bad, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kinda lost track of which is which. In any case, here's a little tidbit on the slimmer 120mm.


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[milanv]

Thank you, I contacted Deda support, they were very helpfull and made special items in their eshop to can buy.
So I have them.

Another break point - I have measured the combo and 120 stem looks like cca 130... I am not very happy...

Have you measured yours?
There are not pictures with geometry to clarify, how it is measured in Deda.

If Deda Elementi components - you're just not measuring correctly.

These are 3 different Deda stems. Length goes from Steerer-center to H-Bar-center. Sometimes the handlebar clamp are a greater-radius into the stem, Vinci for example.


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If your measuring generic crap bought off of gray-market sites, good luck to you.

Are we discussing about combo barstem Deda Alanera? Because the topic is clear, I don't have solo Deda (Elementi) stem and bars...

I have standard original Alanera combo from Starbike... And I know how to measure, not a newbie.
Many information from you without content...

[MarshMellow]

Are we discussing about combo barstem Deda Alanera? Because the topic is clear, I don't have solo Deda (Elementi) stem and bars...

I have standard original Alanera combo from Starbike... And I know how to measure, not a newbie.
Many information from you without content...

Whatever. Please - show us how you've gone and arrived on 120mm inegrated controls being 130mm in length.

#notinterestedatalljustbored

[milanv]

Are we discussing about combo barstem Deda Alanera? Because the topic is clear, I don't have solo Deda (Elementi) stem and bars...

I have standard original Alanera combo from Starbike... And I know how to measure, not a newbie.
Many information from you without content...

Whatever. Please - show us how you've gone and arrived on 120mm inegrated controls being 130mm in length.

#notinterestedatalljustbored

So here we go. Better one picture than thousand words...

I have made pictures with my previous Colnago SR9 stem (my information made by Deda Elementi for Colnago) 120 mm lenght above the Deda Alanera Combo 440 + 120 mm, on the same position from the steerer tube.

I think that it is obvious and without hard figures you can see the difference (yes, angles are not taken into account here).

[wickedstealthy]

@milanv that angle on you pictures is around 10-15 degree and at 130mm means already 5mm difference.

Further you need to measure in the middle of the clamp not really possible on the integrated bar. Maybe some difference but doubt it will be a full 1cm

Btw, did you check the reach of the bar ?

[MarshMellow]

Are we discussing about combo barstem Deda Alanera? Because the topic is clear, I don't have solo Deda (Elementi) stem and bars...

I have standard original Alanera combo from Starbike... And I know how to measure, not a newbie.
Many information from you without content...

Whatever. Please - show us how you've gone and arrived on 120mm inegrated controls being 130mm in length.

#notinterestedatalljustbored

So here we go. Better one picture than thousand words...

I have made pictures with my previous Colnago SR9 stem (my information made by Deda Elementi for Colnago) 120 mm lenght above the Deda Alanera Combo 440 + 120 mm, on the same position from the steerer tube.

I think that it is obvious and without hard figures you can see the difference (yes, angles are not taken into account here).

Do all of your component-shopping @ AliExpress? Or, just this once?? I get it - you saved €450 but - that finish is not Deda POB and, you got what you paid for 'not a newb'.

[milanv]

Do you have any personal problems? I think so.

Official Deda Elementi product bought by eshop Starbike is fake bought from AliExpress?

So you have mentioned that Starbike sells fake product.
This is serious impeachment.

[ms6073]

I have made pictures with my previous Colnago SR9 stem (my information made by Deda Elementi for Colnago) 120 mm lenght above the Deda Alanera Combo 440 + 120 mm, on the same position from the steerer tube.

Seems that no matter how we decicde to measure, @milanv is not happy with the length.

Although I do not own this bar, I have been considering it for my C64 for quite some time, so I am finding this discussion to be quite relevant. Seems to me that first image shows the trail edge of the bar aligning very closely with the back fo the slot in the Colnago SR9 stem. Based on my past experiences with early versions of one piece bars like FSA from 2012/2013, I think I would also be inclined to view that as being a but longer than 12 cm. As others have commented though, the cross bar is twice the 'beam' of a converntional round bar, making it more difficult to derive what is the exact centerline. If we assume the center point to be where the center of a round bar would be, then it would seem to me to be a 120 mm length stem, but if you measure the center as the point equidistance from the front to tail of the cross bar, then I would think that it is a 130 mm length stem on that bar.

[wickedstealthy]

Are we discussing about combo barstem Deda Alanera? Because the topic is clear, I don't have solo Deda (Elementi) stem and bars...

I have standard original Alanera combo from Starbike... And I know how to measure, not a newbie.
Many information from you without content...

Whatever. Please - show us how you've gone and arrived on 120mm inegrated controls being 130mm in length.

#notinterestedatalljustbored

So here we go. Better one picture than thousand words...

I have made pictures with my previous Colnago SR9 stem (my information made by Deda Elementi for Colnago) 120 mm lenght above the Deda Alanera Combo 440 + 120 mm, on the same position from the steerer tube.

I think that it is obvious and without hard figures you can see the difference (yes, angles are not taken into account here).

Do all of your component-shopping @ AliExpress? Or, just this once?? I get it - you saved €450 but - that finish is not Deda POB and, you got what you paid for 'not a newb'.

Yeah Im inclinded to start buying from AliExpress Why ? Because those companies like Deda rather ship their products to UAE then anything else ...
Im trying to get hold of the Deda Alanera for almost a FULL year now. Thats a complete joke...
Even my Dura-Ace groupset is flying around here already 3 months now ...

An starbike is just a normal German online retailer.. far from a Chinese box shover ... An paying 650 euro for a bar is not something you consider a cheap Chinese thingy ...

[MarshMellow]

Do you have any personal problems? I think so.

Official Deda Elementi product bought by eshop Starbike is fake bought from AliExpress?

So you have mentioned that Starbike sells fake product.
This is serious impeachment.

Uh, sure.

Look at your janky-assed-half-printed-runout-fake-texture-design. LOOK AT IT. Stop wasting other's time with weak, pathetic attempts to draw further interwebz-cred to you previous posts.

You're a *f##k*-ing joke.

[MarshMellow]

Genuine Deda -

Your generic counterfeit garbage -

Picture added because, yes - I do have 'personal' problems. Such as, vehicles for Economic Espionage, Increased Counterfeiting of Commerece, Inflatition (not talking about your tubeless-insert rimz genius...)
But, whatever. Post away.