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Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:20 am
by Maddie
I use both 9170 and 9270 calipers. To me, the 9270 calipers themselves are not worth the upgrade since I don't have any rubbing on 9170. The 9270 do look nicer though.

Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:20 am
by Weenie

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Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:12 pm
by BdaGhisallo
GONE4ARIDE wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:12 am
BdaGhisallo wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:25 pm
henau212 wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:36 pm
BdaGhisallo wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:00 pm
Ouch!

Shimano R9200P Power Meter In-Depth Review: Astonishingly Inaccurate

https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2023/02/shi ... 7vYCazjyIU
Yikes.. Shimano sponsored teams swapping to non Shimano PMs during training? πŸ€¦πŸΌβ€β™‚οΈ
They're probably ditching them in races too like using a non drive Stages and just going with that alone.
Stages has a new dual-sided DA unit out that has tested very well. Here is a link to GP Lama's review:

https://youtu.be/H1YxXidWZc4
I have one incoming.

Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:22 pm
by LedZeppelin007
BdaGhisallo wrote:
GONE4ARIDE wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:12 am
BdaGhisallo wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:25 pm
henau212 wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:36 pm
Yikes.. Shimano sponsored teams swapping to non Shimano PMs during training? Image
They're probably ditching them in races too like using a non drive Stages and just going with that alone.
Stages has a new dual-sided DA unit out that has tested very well. Here is a link to GP Lama's review:

https://youtu.be/H1YxXidWZc4
I have one incoming.
I’ve owned one. It works.


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Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:27 pm
by BdaGhisallo
LedZeppelin007 wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:22 pm
BdaGhisallo wrote:
GONE4ARIDE wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:12 am
BdaGhisallo wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:25 pm


They're probably ditching them in races too like using a non drive Stages and just going with that alone.
Stages has a new dual-sided DA unit out that has tested very well. Here is a link to GP Lama's review:

https://youtu.be/H1YxXidWZc4
I have one incoming.
I’ve owned one. It works.


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Good to hear. I don't ask much of a powermeter but basic accuracy is needed.

Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 2:15 am
by GONE4ARIDE
LedZeppelin007 wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:22 pm
BdaGhisallo wrote:
GONE4ARIDE wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:12 am
BdaGhisallo wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:25 pm


They're probably ditching them in races too like using a non drive Stages and just going with that alone.
Stages has a new dual-sided DA unit out that has tested very well. Here is a link to GP Lama's review:

https://youtu.be/H1YxXidWZc4
I have one incoming.
I’ve owned one. It works.


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Good to know. Thanks. It'll likely be the way I go when I build up a DA12 bike.

Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:19 am
by eins4eins
Is there a possibility to run a shimano 12x drivetrain with a cassette with 10 speed cog?

Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:18 am
by ultimobici
eins4eins wrote:Is there a possibility to run a shimano 12x drivetrain with a cassette with 10 speed cog?
Very doubtful. Why?


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Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:29 am
by eins4eins
Because something like a 10-33 cassette with 50-34 rings would be my preferred gearing, but i don't like sram.

Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:25 am
by ultimobici
eins4eins wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:29 am
Because something like a 10-33 cassette with 50-34 rings would be my preferred gearing, but i don't like sram.
Aside from the issue of whether a 50X10 gear is necesssary, where are you intending to get a 10-33 10 speed cassette? As far as I can tell, there isn't one available!

Or do you mean a 10T top sprocket non-Sram cassette?

Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:32 am
by eins4eins
yes, i meant a 10t sprocket for 12sp. Currently i'm running 52/39 with 11-32 cassette and i can ride almost everything in the big ring. With a slightly smaller big chainring i could stay in the big ring probably 99,5% of the time. 50T with 11-32 doesn't work for me.

Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:43 am
by ultimobici
eins4eins wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:32 am
yes, i meant a 10t sprocket for 12sp. Currently i'm running 52/39 with 11-32 cassette and i can ride almost everything in the big ring. With a slightly smaller big chainring i could stay in the big ring probably 99,5% of the time. 50T with 11-32 doesn't work for me.
I have both 11T & 10T cassettes, albeit on different systems. On a gravel bike the 10T isn't that annoying because the tyres are more of an issue than the feel of the 10T. When I drop a set of slick 700C tyres into the bike it highlights just how awfully inefficient the 10T is.

Why not look at 52/36 with an 11-34? You'll gain an extra gear in the 52 as well as a slightly wider range to boot.

http://www.gear-calculator.com

Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:12 pm
by LedZeppelin007
For those of us who are stuck with R9100P and R9200P, is there any recourse? I chatted with Canyon and they offered $50 to take it to a local Shimano tech to check out. For now, it’s just kind of a useless piece of gear on my bike and I’m running Rally pedals and dual recording.


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Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:09 am
by m3bas
LedZeppelin007 wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:12 pm
For those of us who are stuck with R9100P and R9200P, is there any recourse? I chatted with Canyon and they offered $50 to take it to a local Shimano tech to check out. For now, it’s just kind of a useless piece of gear on my bike and I’m running Rally pedals and dual recording.


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Do you notice large discrepancies in numbers between the 2? I'm just wondering about real world use as compared to the minute analysis by DC Rainmaker, etc.

Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:33 am
by henau212
LedZeppelin007 wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:12 pm
For those of us who are stuck with R9100P and R9200P, is there any recourse? I chatted with Canyon and they offered $50 to take it to a local Shimano tech to check out. For now, it’s just kind of a useless piece of gear on my bike and I’m running Rally pedals and dual recording.


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Why not just sell the Powermeter, buy a standard spider and use the Rally? The did not fix the old and my bet is that they are not going fix the new one..

Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 12:51 pm
by BdaGhisallo
I love the SW-R600 satellite shifter on my 9150 setup - though it was a 9070 generation product.

Is there anyway that this switch can be spliced into a 9250 DI2 system?

Re: Next generation of Dura-Ace Di2

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 12:51 pm
by Weenie

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