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Does anyone else kind of miss R9100?


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LedZeppelin007 wrote:Does anyone else kind of miss R9100?


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Love the new hoods and no brake rub. But noisy RD and almost never dropped a chain on 9100, now it’s a fairly regular occurrence


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LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:55 am
Does anyone else kind of miss R9100?
You can always go back to R9100 :)

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It's not so easy it seems...

I was toying with the idea of upgrading from ultegra 6800 di2 to DA 9100 di2 for rim and it seems cheaper to find 12 speed stuff nowadays (EU market).

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Jz91 wrote:
Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:35 am
It's not so easy it seems...

I was toying with the idea of upgrading from ultegra 6800 di2 to DA 9100 di2 for rim and it seems cheaper to find 12 speed stuff nowadays (EU market).
I have most of what you'd need. PM me if interested

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LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:55 am
Does anyone else kind of miss R9100?


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Yes i do.
Although i have bigger hands (i’m 1m93) i like the shape, off the R9100, shifters more.
It was more quiet, no rattling chains issues, no cassette problems, front derailleur had limit screws and never had a single chain drop.
Yeah it’s maybe faster shifting in front and rear but that the most important thing in the world?

For all the above reasons I changed to a single speed Sram Red AXS. Apart from the shifters (still prefer the R9100 above anything) and marginal little bit slower shifting it performs better and is it more quiet (at this moment). Can’t speak about the front derailleur.

Now i speak about my own personal experience and problems. I can believe that there are people with 0 issues.

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LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:55 am
Does anyone else kind of miss R9100?


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not at all if we are talking about disc version

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Most of my problems were from the wrongs chain length and the incorrect b-screw position

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sealucky wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:26 pm
LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:55 am
Does anyone else kind of miss R9100?


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not at all if we are talking about disc version
What was wrong with the disc version of 11sp di2?

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robertbb wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:24 pm
sealucky wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:26 pm
LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:55 am
Does anyone else kind of miss R9100?


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not at all if we are talking about disc version
What was wrong with the disc version of 11sp di2?
Nothing at all.

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robertbb wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:24 pm
sealucky wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:26 pm
LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:55 am
Does anyone else kind of miss R9100?


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not at all if we are talking about disc version
What was wrong with the disc version of 11sp di2?
Calipers rubbing? Fixable with new gen Shimano calipers, trickstuff, campagnolo or magura ones.

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Hey guys,
I'm just waiting to get my bike rebuilt with 12 speed - who I consider a very reputable/skilled mechanic mentioned to me that I should run it wired rather than wireless. He reckons the shifting is faster when set up wired rather than semi wireless and adding 1 small cable that can run with the hydraulic line it was worth doing. Has anyone else heard this? I can't find it mentioned anywhere (not that I would expect all the press releases to mention it)..

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by Maddie

No, it's not faster when wired but the battery lasts longer. You'll need at least two additional wires, not just one.

Installation itself is easier if you don't have to route one cable from the BB to one shifter and another one from shifter to shifter.

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STUB1 wrote:
Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:45 am
Hey guys,
I'm just waiting to get my bike rebuilt with 12 speed - who I consider a very reputable/skilled mechanic mentioned to me that I should run it wired rather than wireless. He reckons the shifting is faster when set up wired rather than semi wireless and adding 1 small cable that can run with the hydraulic line it was worth doing. Has anyone else heard this? I can't find it mentioned anywhere (not that I would expect all the press releases to mention it)..
This may be a little unfair/judgemental, but this is how I read your mechanic's comment:

(....) who I consider a very reputable/skilled mechanic mentioned to me that I should run it wired rather than wireless. He reckons he could charge you more money to set up wired rather than semi wireless and adding 2 expensive cables that can run with the hydraulic lines it was worth doing. :D :D
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LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:55 am
Does anyone else kind of miss R9100?


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I don't specifically miss the rim brake version of 11 speed, but I do miss the 'it just worked' factor. Neither I nor 2 different shops can totally eliminate chain throw with the 8170 FD, and I preferred the old hood shape.

I'm very seriously considering selling it and seeing if I can pick up 11sp DA for the same money. I did consider AXS, but decided that's too drastic :wink:

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