Dura-Ace R9200

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BdaGhisallo wrote:
Fri Feb 24, 2023 12:51 pm
I love the SW-R600 satellite shifter on my 9150 setup - though it was a 9070 generation product.

Is there anyway that this switch can be spliced into a 9250 DI2 system?
no, Shimano does not allow the use of double button controls, not even using the adapter from SD50 to SD300.......It is a matter of firmware, because it is possible to use 1-button TT/Tri remotes from the previous series

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I have a DA 9200 crankset with 54/42 chainrings, with Ultegra 8100 Front and rear dereilleur. Works fine, but when adjusting in the e-tube app it wont allow me to go higher than 52/39 on the crankset (guess thats Max for ultegra cranksets).

Will that impact the correct sequencing of the full syncro shift?

I have to use syncro shift since This is my Tri/TT bike which just have single button shifters.

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TriBenji wrote:I have a DA 9200 crankset with 54/42 chainrings, with Ultegra 8100 Front and rear dereilleur. Works fine, but when adjusting in the e-tube app it wont allow me to go higher than 52/39 on the crankset (guess thats Max for ultegra cranksets).

Will that impact the correct sequencing of the full syncro shift?

I have to use syncro shift since This is my Tri/TT bike which just have single button shifters.
I think you can manually adjust the shift points. If so, you’ll need the shift map from a Dura Ace set-up so you can copy the shift points. Maybe Terry can help?


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TriBenji wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:35 am
I have a DA 9200 crankset with 54/42 chainrings, with Ultegra 8100 Front and rear dereilleur. Works fine, but when adjusting in the e-tube app it wont allow me to go higher than 52/39 on the crankset (guess thats Max for ultegra cranksets).

Will that impact the correct sequencing of the full syncro shift?

I have to use syncro shift since This is my Tri/TT bike which just have single button shifters.
select what e-tube lets you and that's it... there is no problem in putting different toothing

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Yeah, it'll work fine. Sure, the gear ratios it displays in the Synchro Shift settings will be wrong... but if you set it up to shift at the 4th gear, it'll still do that... even when that gear is 54x26T instead of 52x26T :).

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And if you have it displayed on the Garmin, you can put in the correct numbers there.

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LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:12 pm
For those of us who are stuck with R9100P and R9200P, is there any recourse? I chatted with Canyon and they offered $50 to take it to a local Shimano tech to check out. For now, it’s just kind of a useless piece of gear on my bike and I’m running Rally pedals and dual recording.


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Why not just sell the Powermeter, buy a standard spider and use the Rally? The did not fix the old and my bet is that they are not going fix the new one..
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Slightly heavier than the R9100P, but not bad (739g).


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TerryDi2C wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 1:51 pm
Yeah, it'll work fine. Sure, the gear ratios it displays in the Synchro Shift settings will be wrong... but if you set it up to shift at the 4th gear, it'll still do that... even when that gear is 54x26T instead of 52x26T :).
Great, Thanks for helping guys! :D

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Has anybody tried a 40T inner chainring in combination with a 52T outer chainring.

Is this a combination that will likely cause problems? I live in the Netherlands where it is very flat. I want to ride with a 40T inner chainring on the flats here and then change back to 36 when I go to the hills/mountains.

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Cubist wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:56 pm
Has anybody tried a 40T inner chainring in combination with a 52T outer chainring.

Is this a combination that will likely cause problems? I live in the Netherlands where it is very flat. I want to ride with a 40T inner chainring on the flats here and then change back to 36 when I go to the hills/mountains.
I can't recall where I read it - perhaps somewhere in this thread even - but someone looked at it and simply placing the 40 against a 52 showed that, due to the larger size of the 40 compared to the 36 the 52 is normally paired with, the shift ramp entry points were below the teeth on the 40 ring. That indicated that the shifting to the big ring might be quite compromised.

You could always be the one to give it a go and report back on how it works. Thankfully, even 9200 inner rings are pretty cheap compared to the outer rings. For $40-$50 it would be money well spent to run the experiment. I just might do it myself when I finally get 9200 onto a frame.

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LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:24 pm
henau212 wrote:
LedZeppelin007 wrote:
Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:12 pm
For those of us who are stuck with R9100P and R9200P, is there any recourse? I chatted with Canyon and they offered $50 to take it to a local Shimano tech to check out. For now, it’s just kind of a useless piece of gear on my bike and I’m running Rally pedals and dual recording.


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Why not just sell the Powermeter, buy a standard spider and use the Rally? The did not fix the old and my bet is that they are not going fix the new one..
My solution (along with a BBinfinite GXP BB):

Image


Slightly heavier than the R9100P, but not bad (739g).


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Hi I'm interested in this Quarq setup - does it work OK or are there any issues? I'm running Quarq and would like to upgrade but keep it as my PM

Thx very much

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Cubist wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:56 pm
Has anybody tried a 40T inner chainring in combination with a 52T outer chainring.

Is this a combination that will likely cause problems? I live in the Netherlands where it is very flat. I want to ride with a 40T inner chainring on the flats here and then change back to 36 when I go to the hills/mountains.
Yes I have tried it. Shifts from small to big do not work at all.

I have instead used a 9000 series 38t small ring and that works about 90% so happy with that. 90% still being very good just marginally slower at some angles.

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Cubist wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:56 pm
Has anybody tried a 40T inner chainring in combination with a 52T outer chainring.

Is this a combination that will likely cause problems? I live in the Netherlands where it is very flat. I want to ride with a 40T inner chainring on the flats here and then change back to 36 when I go to the hills/mountains.
If i was you i would jsut go 54/40. simple.

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Cubist wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:56 pm
Has anybody tried a 40T inner chainring in combination with a 52T outer chainring.

Is this a combination that will likely cause problems? I live in the Netherlands where it is very flat. I want to ride with a 40T inner chainring on the flats here and then change back to 36 when I go to the hills/mountains.
Out of curiosity, what is the advantage to you of running a 40T inner ring with a 52T outer, better chainline?
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Nickldn wrote:
Cubist wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:56 pm
Has anybody tried a 40T inner chainring in combination with a 52T outer chainring.

Is this a combination that will likely cause problems? I live in the Netherlands where it is very flat. I want to ride with a 40T inner chainring on the flats here and then change back to 36 when I go to the hills/mountains.
Out of curiosity, what is the advantage to you of running a 40T inner ring with a 52T outer, better chainline?
Back when mid-compact wasn’t yet a thing I had a 38 paired with a 50 for the SE of England and swapped to a 34 for trips to Europe. It meant I could use the inner ring for cruising in to work etc rather than staying in the big ring and cross chaining.


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