Extralite Road Disc

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youjettisonme
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by youjettisonme

I started this thread but haven't checked in in a looong time so I thought I would offer my longterm review.

First off, these are my everyday wheels. I ride about 9k miles/year, and I've been riding on these for a year and a half now. First the good:

-- Where will you notice the difference with these stupid-light wheels? Accelerations. Be it an attack or change of pace on a climb, or a sprint on any terrain, the difference is extremely noticeable between these and, let's say, a 1500 gram wheelset. I've run these with Tubolitos from the start, removing even more rotating weight, and it's been an ideal combination for me. Especially on steep climbs, these represent a game-changer. And prior to the pandemic when we were doing huge group rides, it was night and day between this set of wheels and my more normal set of carbon hoops.

-- They look great. That's obvious from the pics in this thread, but everyone who sees them in person asks about them.

-- The hubs have never been serviced and they still spin silently and flawlessly. They just roll forever. For some reason I expected these to be super finicky, but they've been bullet proof.

-- For 6 months now, I've had ZERO problems... but now for the bad:

-- I was getting pings from the spokes pretty early on. It was maddening. My LBS kept adjusting the tension at first, but it turns out it was the hub itself that needed tightening. It arrived way too loose. Once that issue was addressed, it was never an issue again.

-- Broken spokes. The front have been flawless, but I broke three in the rear. Ouch, And when I went to get them replaced? Turns out my rim was cracked. Luckily, Extralite was great about their warranty and sent me a new rim right away.

Now back to the good again...

I decided to lace the new rear wheel with Berd spokes. These have been amazing. The wheelbuilder told me that Extralite hubs actually work terrifically with Berd spokes so that was just a happy accident. But the spokes themselves make the wheels even lighter, and there is a noticeable improvement in vertical compliance compared to the pillar hyperlites. I can't say enough about Berd, and I was lucky to be able to build them with black spokes as well since white is typially what they sell to consumers.

That's about all I have to offer. I never worry about these wheels, and I ride them pretty much every day. I feel the crosswinds a little bit on the Golden Gate Bridge, perhaps a little bit more than before, but not big deal. I never feel unsafe. I'd recommend these to anyone.

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Gary71
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by Gary71

youjettisonme wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:17 pm
I started this thread but haven't checked in in a looong time so I thought I would offer my longterm review.

First off, these are my everyday wheels. I ride about 9k miles/year, and I've been riding on these for a year and a half now. First the good:

-- Where will you notice the difference with these stupid-light wheels? Accelerations. Be it an attack or change of pace on a climb, or a sprint on any terrain, the difference is extremely noticeable between these and, let's say, a 1500 gram wheelset. I've run these with Tubolitos from the start, removing even more rotating weight, and it's been an ideal combination for me. Especially on steep climbs, these represent a game-changer. And prior to the pandemic when we were doing huge group rides, it was night and day between this set of wheels and my more normal set of carbon hoops.

-- They look great. That's obvious from the pics in this thread, but everyone who sees them in person asks about them.

-- The hubs have never been serviced and they still spin silently and flawlessly. They just roll forever. For some reason I expected these to be super finicky, but they've been bullet proof.

-- For 6 months now, I've had ZERO problems... but now for the bad:

-- I was getting pings from the spokes pretty early on. It was maddening. My LBS kept adjusting the tension at first, but it turns out it was the hub itself that needed tightening. It arrived way too loose. Once that issue was addressed, it was never an issue again.

-- Broken spokes. The front have been flawless, but I broke three in the rear. Ouch, And when I went to get them replaced? Turns out my rim was cracked. Luckily, Extralite was great about their warranty and sent me a new rim right away.

Now back to the good again...

I decided to lace the new rear wheel with Berd spokes. These have been amazing. The wheelbuilder told me that Extralite hubs actually work terrifically with Berd spokes so that was just a happy accident. But the spokes themselves make the wheels even lighter, and there is a noticeable improvement in vertical compliance compared to the pillar hyperlites. I can't say enough about Berd, and I was lucky to be able to build them with black spokes as well since white is typially what they sell to consumers.

That's about all I have to offer. I never worry about these wheels, and I ride them pretty much every day. I feel the crosswinds a little bit on the Golden Gate Bridge, perhaps a little bit more than before, but not big deal. I never feel unsafe. I'd recommend these to anyone.
Thank you for the follow up and your long term thoughts. Any comments on how they are rims are fairing with general wear n tear? Mark's, scratches or nicks?
......, and I don't think you've shared a photo of your steed?
Once again - many thanks. I think I need to treat myself.
Gary

angman19
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by angman19

What’s the weight with the Berks spokes installed vs the old? I now have a set of these with the SPD2 hubs but also a set of Farsports Feder rims in 45/50mm with the newer SPD3 hubs. Torn on which to run/keep.

I’ve been using schwalbe pro1 on the Farsports. Haven’t used the cyberdiscs yet. Any suggestions or use the same so I can compare them better?

peel83
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by peel83

I'm interested to buy these wheels but only if they work well tubeless. Have people had success running them tubeless? If so, with what tyres?

Thanks

shaisimchi
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Joined: Sat Apr 08, 2017 10:44 pm

by shaisimchi

Does anyone know who makes the rims?
on the product page it says "tricky clincher rims custom built for us here in Italy"
Thanks!

petromyzon
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by petromyzon

I had assumed it was WR Compositi, based upon the weights and the fact that they are both Italian :D :D

FlatlandClimber
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by FlatlandClimber

Hello forum,
I am interested in getting my hands on the Extralite Cyberdisc 339 clincher wheels.
How is your guys' experience with Extralite wheels, especially in terms of stiffness?
The Berd spokes (textile spokes) looks very intriguing, but I can't find any reviews on these, and I am a little worried they are not stiff or weird when braking. What is your experience here?

1020g for a 38mm deep, relatively wide, TL compatible wheel is absolutely ludicrous. It seems a little too good to be true (without major compromise).
Cervelo P5 Disc (2021) 9.1kg
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
S-Works SL8 (2023) 6.3kg

*weights are race ready, size 58/L.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT, Crux, Aethos, SL7

FlatlandClimber
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by FlatlandClimber

Received my pair, with the standard spokes. The Berd spokes would have been more bling and some 60g lighter, but also less aerodynamic, and I can't really justify that, at this very important area.
The quality looks fantastic so far and man they are light.
488g front wheel, 569g rear (no TL tape, no valves, no nothing) - that's a stupid light 1057g for the pair.

I put a GP5000s TR 30c on it (for winter riding), 2 full rounds of TL tape, 40ml of sealant, tubolight insert, tubolight valve, and Carbon-Ti 160mm rotor front, 140mm rear.
I am still waiting for the 11-34 cassette to arrive, then I'll weight the ful set.
Front wheel is 941g as described. I know this isn't particularly WW, but with the fat, fast, save tires, it's by far the lightest front wheel I have ever had.

Installation was super easy. Tires jumped into position immediately, and kept sealed right away.

I'll definitely switch out the front tire to a 28c once this one is worn, for racing. The tires come out to 30.3 and 30.2mm respectively, which I expected to be less than that. The tires clearly bulge out over the rim, which is not a great look on the front. 28mm is probably the best for my usecase. 25c probably the fastest.
Cervelo P5 Disc (2021) 9.1kg
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
S-Works SL8 (2023) 6.3kg

*weights are race ready, size 58/L.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT, Crux, Aethos, SL7

angman19
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by angman19

Longer term update. These are still by far my favorite wheels. Been using these for for awhile now and the are just reliable and performs wildly. I have the SPD2 hubs and regular spokes. I'm 65kgs and use these wheels everyday with Schwalbe Pro Ones tubeless. I haven't had any spoke tension issues and crosswinds haven't been any concern either. They climb unbelievably well with no flex and are pretty fast when needed to be. They are fairly aero for speeds up to 45-50kms on the flats I seem to be fine but around 50-55kms I have had some trouble keeping up with my faster group rides. Of course this is on my Factor 02 13.75lb climbing bike so may not be a fair comparison vs my Wilier Cento10 Air with Enve 5.6s that I usually do my fast rides with. I have also used my Farsports Feder 45/50mm wheels and results about the same as the Extralites. I would certainly buy these again and can recommend them to anyone that's interested. The cheaper Farsports Feder with Extralite SPD3 hubs i had built are pretty decent as well and weigh in at 1240 grams. They also have no flex and climb really well. If cost is not an issues id choose the Extralites only because they look amazing and performs slightly better in the climbs.

yourrealdad
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Joined: Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:25 pm

by yourrealdad

I feel like I have seen people running these with standard clincher tires and tubes, but they are hookless?

Don't these wheels need a tubeless tire?

I know you can run hookless with tube, but hookless rims are supposed to have tubeless tires, tube or no tube.

riochang
Posts: 187
Joined: Fri Feb 19, 2016 4:48 am

by riochang

Have you had the chance to ride these wheels yet? would love to hear your ride review on these. I am seriously considering getting them as well.
thanks!
FlatlandClimber wrote:
Sun Feb 20, 2022 2:16 pm
Received my pair, with the standard spokes. The Berd spokes would have been more bling and some 60g lighter, but also less aerodynamic, and I can't really justify that, at this very important area.
The quality looks fantastic so far and man they are light.
488g front wheel, 569g rear (no TL tape, no valves, no nothing) - that's a stupid light 1057g for the pair.

I put a GP5000s TR 30c on it (for winter riding), 2 full rounds of TL tape, 40ml of sealant, tubolight insert, tubolight valve, and Carbon-Ti 160mm rotor front, 140mm rear.
I am still waiting for the 11-34 cassette to arrive, then I'll weight the ful set.
Front wheel is 941g as described. I know this isn't particularly WW, but with the fat, fast, save tires, it's by far the lightest front wheel I have ever had.

Installation was super easy. Tires jumped into position immediately, and kept sealed right away.

I'll definitely switch out the front tire to a 28c once this one is worn, for racing. The tires come out to 30.3 and 30.2mm respectively, which I expected to be less than that. The tires clearly bulge out over the rim, which is not a great look on the front. 28mm is probably the best for my usecase. 25c probably the fastest.

FlatlandClimber
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Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:37 pm

by FlatlandClimber

I have ridden the wheels for around 500k now.
They are not super stiff and I had to retention the spokes after the first ride. The Extralite rim, Extralite hub with other spokes would probably be a best of both worlds solution.
Besides that. No issues. Roll well and are stable.
Cervelo P5 Disc (2021) 9.1kg
Factor Ostro Gravel (2023) 8.0kg
S-Works SL8 (2023) 6.3kg

*weights are race ready, size 58/L.
Sold: Venge, S5 Disc, Roubaix Team, Open WI.DE, Émonda, Shiv TT, Crux, Aethos, SL7

riochang
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by riochang

thanks! ya Im worried about those spokes as well, swap to sapim cx ray could make it the ultimate all around wheels.

MarkoP
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by MarkoP

I'm looking at the CyberDisc 339 Clinchers with the SPD-3 hubs but curious what bearings you guys are using - are the XD-15's really worth the additional investment? This bike will only be ridden in dry conditions.

The bearing options are:

ABI Abec5 highgrade steel
ABI 440C Stainless (+39 euro)
HDC Hybrid Ceramic (+200 euro)
XD-15 Ceramic (+600 euro)
Current: 2021 Bianchi Specialissima I 2021 Tarmac SL6 S-Works (Sagan Edition) l 2023 Aethos S-Works

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dmbiscuit
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by dmbiscuit

angman19 wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:42 pm
my Wilier Cento10 Air with Enve 5.6s that I usually do my fast rides with.
A bit off topic for this thread, but how do you like the cento10 and how does the build weight come out? I'm considering doing a build with the newer cento10sl rim frameset (which I think is the same carbon as the old Air name).

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