new frame rumors for 2023?

[Kayrehn]

Wonder if the new Factor O2 is meant to be an Aethos killer Interesting that they are still pursuing frame weight as a goal. Will be even more interesting if the pros find it good enough to ride in the Tour.

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[TobinHatesYou]

Wonder if the new Factor O2 is meant to be an Aethos killer Interesting that they are still pursuing frame weight as a goal. Will be even more interesting if the pros find it good enough to ride in the Tour.

The Aethos is shaped that way for a reason. Round tubes have the best strength-to-weight. By making a heavily flattened TT, Factor is already deprioritizing weight seemingly for the sake of vertical compliance.

[extrusionedwin]

[Sanders2177]

It was only a matter of time!!
Or maybe the owner was not told the max rider weight limit!
Or a disgruntled employee missed out that ply of Carbon or two from the layup drawing

[alanyu]

That rider (100 kg IIRC) doesn't break the weight limit of Madone gen 7 (125 kg)

[TobinHatesYou]

That rider (100 kg IIRC) doesn't break the weight limit of Madone gen 7 (125 kg)

Chain’s off. Did he crash as a result of the seattube failure or did he crash and cause a seatpost failure?

Another possibility: seatmast wasn’t torqued to spec, he hit a bump and the seatmast slipped down and perforated the bottom of the seattube on impact, compromising its structure entirely.

[alanyu]

That rider (100 kg IIRC) doesn't break the weight limit of Madone gen 7 (125 kg)

Chain’s off. Did he crash as a result of the seattube failure or did he crash and cause a seatpost failure?

Another possibility: seatmast wasn’t torqued to spec, he hit a bump and the seatmast slipped down and perforated the bottom of the seattube on impact, compromising its structure entirely.

Found the screenshot I saw before.

[ultimobici]

Looks like a new Factor on the way soon https://escapecollective.com/is-a-new-f ... ming-soon/

It would be a contender for me if... they would steepen the seat tube angle a bit. The 73/73 angles are traditional aka as old school/outdated

Outdated? How so?

Bike manufacturers have to ensure their geometry accommodates a wide range of builds. By steepening the STA past 73° on the medium to larger sizes they exclude a chunk of potential buyers. That makes no commercial sense.


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[wheelsONfire]

any more info about new factor o2?

coming soon, since I just got an extremely good deal on current generation from one of the stores.

Those bikes are way less stiff than Ostro. But it seems common for Factor. Even their combo has been told to not be so stiff.
I wonder if the new gravel stem/bar version (which i think they sell for road bikes to) are stiffer.

[wheelsONfire]

When Reacto came out, i think it had a really cool look. These days so many bikes are shaped like this.
It's like all make versions of same concept. Perhaps this is why Madone did that magic hole?
Is this just a pearl white edition, no updates to the design?

[alanyu]

When Reacto came out, i think it had a really cool look. These days so many bikes are shaped like this.
It's like all make versions of same concept. Perhaps this is why Madone did that magic hole?
Is this just a pearl white edition, no updates to the design?

Just a new paint.

[pmprego]

Looks like a new Factor on the way soon https://escapecollective.com/is-a-new-f ... ming-soon/

It would be a contender for me if... they would steepen the seat tube angle a bit. The 73/73 angles are traditional aka as old school/outdated

Outdated? How so?

Bike manufacturers have to ensure their geometry accommodates a wide range of builds. By steepening the STA past 73° on the medium to larger sizes they exclude a chunk of potential buyers. That makes no commercial sense.


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They could then offer more than one setback seatpost option. Nonetheless, specialized is probably the most successful bike and for size 54/M it has a 74° Sta for quite some years now. Yet, most brands are placing their sta in size M in the 73.6-37.8° ballpark. Keeping it at 73° I consider it to be old-school because of this.

The Factor gravel/road new handlebar is quite heavy for an integrated bar so I imagine it must be rather stiff.

[wheelsONfire]

I personally wouldn't get along with a too far forward position. My bike has a rather slack angle, i even have the saddle pushed all way backwards.
But i also ride a TT saddle which might explain that. For those far forward positions framesets, i would for sure need an offset seatpost.
But yeah, those having the cleats pushed way back might like forward position and lower saddle height.

[pmprego]

I personally wouldn't get along with a too far forward position. My bike has a rather slack angle, i even have the saddle pushed all way backwards.
But i also ride a TT saddle which might explain that. For those far forward positions framesets, i would for sure need an offset seatpost.
But yeah, those having the cleats pushed way back might like forward position and lower saddle height.

My point is that a setback seatpost can kind of take you a lot backwards but there isnt much "negative setback" seatposts (sctually, I think giant has this but it's the only one).

In my case, from two different bikefit, I have my saddle slammed forward on a zero setback seatpost and 73.3° sta. I guess I have really long legs compared to unusually short arms.

[wheelsONfire]

I personally wouldn't get along with a too far forward position. My bike has a rather slack angle, i even have the saddle pushed all way backwards.
But i also ride a TT saddle which might explain that. For those far forward positions framesets, i would for sure need an offset seatpost.
But yeah, those having the cleats pushed way back might like forward position and lower saddle height.

My point is that a setback seatpost can kind of take you a lot backwards but there isnt much "negative setback" seatposts (sctually, I think giant has this but it's the only one).

In my case, from two different bikefit, I have my saddle slammed forward on a zero setback seatpost and 73.3° sta. I guess I have really long legs compared to unusually short arms.

But how does it make your back feel?
I have test to move my cleats rearward several occasions over the years, but i always end up feeling restrained in some way.
It's like the whole body feels awkward.
I rode more forward before, but i don't know what happened, all of a sudden it just felt bad.