I'll just leave here a gentle *lol*...OnTheRivet wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 5:50 pmTo be fair none of that speed was because of him, he was literally on the front for 15k of a 260k race. The teams are faster which is logical as the cycling talent pool gets deeper every year.
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What about DSM blocking the road at sub-walking speed on one climb? 
It was quite funny, lame but funny. Not quite sure what their plan was, I thought they would have one guy attack and keep blocking but no, they all went only to fade into nothingness, it served absolutely no purpose apart from annoying everyone else and maybe get a few seconds of TV time.
It was quite funny, lame but funny. Not quite sure what their plan was, I thought they would have one guy attack and keep blocking but no, they all went only to fade into nothingness, it served absolutely no purpose apart from annoying everyone else and maybe get a few seconds of TV time.-
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Yes, had his derny with him apparently. This seems to happen more and more lately, as an aside, why are there so many photographers on motorcycles. How can there possibly be a market for that many still photos?
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To be fair he agreed with it publicly. Neither of them looks very clever in hindsight!
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You guys do realize that just because he's winning on that Colnago doesn't mean that "he's handicapped by that Colnago" can't be true, right? It is possible that both of those things can be true.... It is possible that the bike isn't the best, but that his natural abilities and talent allow him to overcome them and still win. It is possible that he'd be winning more and be more dominant if he was on something else.
I have ridden with and talked with a former pro that was on a team that rode the V2 and he did not have nice things to say about that bike... said it was the worst bike he had to ride as a pro. This came up because I was having a conversation with him about pros and their bikes. I asked him if pro riders got excited or even cared about the bikes they got to ride, or did they simply view them as a tool and it didn't really matter. He basically said, for the most part, he didn't care.. he was fine to ride any bike, except when he was on team XYZ. The bike was horrible. I wouldn't ride it again. I also asked him if he had kept any bikes that meant something special to him... notable wins, etc. He had won a stage of the Vuelta... he said he no longer had the bike and kind of regretted it now. He also said that one team he had been on, had given him a special bike due to a national championship he had won... he no longer had that either and regretted it.
I have ridden with and talked with a former pro that was on a team that rode the V2 and he did not have nice things to say about that bike... said it was the worst bike he had to ride as a pro. This came up because I was having a conversation with him about pros and their bikes. I asked him if pro riders got excited or even cared about the bikes they got to ride, or did they simply view them as a tool and it didn't really matter. He basically said, for the most part, he didn't care.. he was fine to ride any bike, except when he was on team XYZ. The bike was horrible. I wouldn't ride it again. I also asked him if he had kept any bikes that meant something special to him... notable wins, etc. He had won a stage of the Vuelta... he said he no longer had the bike and kind of regretted it now. He also said that one team he had been on, had given him a special bike due to a national championship he had won... he no longer had that either and regretted it.
Great - so from a sample size of one person who didn't like a totally different bike we can extrapolate that and assume.......nothing.
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NO not at all... that's not what I'm saying. I'm just offering another data point. No where did I say it was an end all, be all. It was also the V2... not the current V4RS. Maybe that feedback on the V2 was taken and the V3 and V4RS has been improved because of it. This is a thread for discussion, we are all just sharing data from a sample size of one person.
Fair point - my apoplogies if I misread it.CrankAddictsRich wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 1:21 pmNO not at all... that's not what I'm saying. I'm just offering another data point. No where did I say it was an end all, be all. It was also the V2... not the current V4RS. Maybe that feedback on the V2 was taken and the V3 and V4RS has been improved because of it. This is a thread for discussion, we are all just sharing data from a sample size of one person.
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