2023 Pro thread
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Clearly everyone on narrow bars now has problems with breathing… and no it’s not only a handful of pros using narrow bars. Not only are they using narrow bars, but they are turning in their grips/levers as well. It’s a popular enough trend that the UCI felt compelled to create a minimum bar width limit.
BTW Lance is also incapable of supertucking, so maybe he’s just a bit weird and dodgy.
As it turns out, aero is very important and we’re even more aware of that now than in the LA days.
BTW Lance is also incapable of supertucking, so maybe he’s just a bit weird and dodgy.
As it turns out, aero is very important and we’re even more aware of that now than in the LA days.
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How would you have trouble breathing when men have an average shoulder width of 40-38cm?
Wouldn't it be fun, if moderators moderated and made a specific thread on bar width?robbosmans wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:26 amHow would you have trouble breathing when men have an average shoulder width of 40-38cm?
....and then we could discuss pro racing here
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Pro racing topics to dicuss...
Mikkel Bjerg... in his interview, he mentioned that he's felt he's never lived up to his potential. Obviously, he had success in the junior and U23 ranks. Do you feel he's not lived up to expectations?
Personally, I feel like he's had an ok career so far... a solid worker for the team leader.. he's always there or there abouts in the TT's. It will be interesting to see if this win has an effect on his mentatilty and he gets a few more now.
Mikkel Bjerg... in his interview, he mentioned that he's felt he's never lived up to his potential. Obviously, he had success in the junior and U23 ranks. Do you feel he's not lived up to expectations?
Personally, I feel like he's had an ok career so far... a solid worker for the team leader.. he's always there or there abouts in the TT's. It will be interesting to see if this win has an effect on his mentatilty and he gets a few more now.
^ I hope so. I think it's easy to fall into a pure worker role if management is not 100% confident you have a legit shot in a TT. Maybe he won't have to do quite as much drudge work in the future, certainly in the days leading up to a TT. But in a grand tour, he's not going to get much freedom on that team given that they have Pogacar and other good GC riders.
Isnt that a reality of being a pro at the highest level. Your yardstick is skewed af when the rest of your peers are freaks of nature. If you compare yourself to guys like pogacar and roglic or cavendish you could never feel your worth. It’s a balancing act and they arent having it easy.
And tt specialist is a specially hard one when you have guys like Martin, Wiggins, Roglic, Wout, Remco around everyone else feels like they can only hope for a podium despite being up there in the world’s best. Many great tt specialist dont really win all that much - guys like Dowsett, Bissegger. You also get the least chance compare to climber and sprinter given the nature of the races. Sometimes the era you are in features these one or two insane riders who simply wipe the floor. Griepel could have been one of the very best sprinter if not for Cavendish racing in the same era.
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And tt specialist is a specially hard one when you have guys like Martin, Wiggins, Roglic, Wout, Remco around everyone else feels like they can only hope for a podium despite being up there in the world’s best. Many great tt specialist dont really win all that much - guys like Dowsett, Bissegger. You also get the least chance compare to climber and sprinter given the nature of the races. Sometimes the era you are in features these one or two insane riders who simply wipe the floor. Griepel could have been one of the very best sprinter if not for Cavendish racing in the same era.
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Yeah - you see the lever setup on that picture of a wide bar is horrendous. If you're doing that, you're doing it wrong. Not sure what it has to do with flare, either. Flared bars don't have to be excessively wide on the tops to be wide where you want it.robbosmans wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:59 pmIts bikefitting 101, excessive wide bars means your wrist will be turned in resulting in having to reach around the lever.
That's also a pic pushing the massively old school 'shoulder width = bar width' thing. Are you saying everyone with narrow bars is stupid too?
If narrow bars are restricting your breathing it means you're breathing wrong. You're supposed to use your diaphragm for breathing (belly breathing) instead of trying to expand your chest.
As for control and narrow bars. It almost feels like people have forgotten recently that drop bars have drops, partially because hoods are nowadays so ergonomic and because aero is everything. If you feel like there's a place coming up where you need more control you should be switching your hands to the drops.
As for control and narrow bars. It almost feels like people have forgotten recently that drop bars have drops, partially because hoods are nowadays so ergonomic and because aero is everything. If you feel like there's a place coming up where you need more control you should be switching your hands to the drops.
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Yeah 1x and aerobike with climbing wheels.
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