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Re: 2022 PRO Thread

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2022 12:07 pm
by BenSiskri
Hmm, not a fan of that type of sponsorship; shoes are/should be a particularly personal choice.

In racing news, PFP returns to CX for the first time in years today at the Koppenbergcross - and in Ineos colours; and now riding with a Shimano groupset, after years and years on Sram.

Re: 2022 PRO Thread

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2022 12:16 pm
by TobinHatesYou
BenSiskri wrote:
Tue Nov 01, 2022 12:07 pm
Hmm, not a fan of that type of sponsorship; shoes are/should be a particularly personal choice.

From a safety/comfort standpoint, so should helmets…

Re: 2022 PRO Thread

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2022 12:16 pm
by Weenie

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Re: 2022 PRO Thread

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2022 2:40 pm
by BenSiskri
Yes, I agree; I know in motorsport, drivers/riders have personal deals with helmet manufacturers.

Re: 2022 PRO Thread

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2022 3:24 pm
by pastronef
it's easier for the shoes. overshoes or rebranded stuff (like the "Asics" Bartoli wore, those were Sidi) or the unbranded Bonts Rui Costa and Dowsett wore. or the Adidas branded Bonts of Wiggo.

for helmets it's less then a "feeling". it's more commercial deal. last rider wearing a non-team-sponsor helmet was Contador wearing Gir helmet in 2011 (Saxo was on Specialzied)
also Cipollini wore Specialized helmet at Liquigas (LAS iirc). PaulineFP wearing Oakley helmet with Team Bmc (Ekoi)

Re: 2022 PRO Thread

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:18 pm
by JMeinholdt
BenSiskri wrote:
Tue Nov 01, 2022 12:07 pm
Hmm, not a fan of that type of sponsorship; shoes are/should be a particularly personal choice.

In racing news, PFP returns to CX for the first time in years today at the Koppenbergcross - and in Ineos colours; and now riding with a Shimano groupset, after years and years on Sram.
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/my-gea ... renadiers/

Sounds like she was quite frustrated with Shimano as well, reporting mechanical failures including chain drops and a jammed derailleur...

Re: 2022 PRO Thread

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:07 pm
by ultimobici
JMeinholdt wrote:
BenSiskri wrote:
Tue Nov 01, 2022 12:07 pm
Hmm, not a fan of that type of sponsorship; shoes are/should be a particularly personal choice.

In racing news, PFP returns to CX for the first time in years today at the Koppenbergcross - and in Ineos colours; and now riding with a Shimano groupset, after years and years on Sram.
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/my-gea ... renadiers/

Sounds like she was quite frustrated with Shimano as well, reporting mechanical failures including chain drops and a jammed derailleur...
I suspect they’ll soon be an opening for a mechanic at Ineos.


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Re: 2022 PRO Thread

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:25 pm
by TobinHatesYou
ultimobici wrote:
Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:07 pm

I suspect they’ll soon be an opening for a mechanic at Ineos.

Riders of PFP's stature have personal mechanics. One of her conditions for joining Ineos was that she could bring Fabien Boissonnet with her.

It's the same for most top MTB pros... For example, Brad Copeland is the best in the business and Kate Courtney's personal mechanic. They're inseparable. I hear one of the reasons why Kate left Specialized was because they didn't want to retain him.

Re: 2022 PRO Thread

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:44 pm
by pastronef
Arkea confirms Bianchi-Shimano for 2023

Re: 2022 PRO Thread

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:12 pm
by stevec1975
Jay Vine to UAE (From Alpecin-Deceuninck)

UAE are going to be the super team to reckon with, wonder who else is on their radar..

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/racing/al ... m-emirates

Re: 2022 PRO Thread

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:40 pm
by maquisard
Quintana has also lost his Tramadol appeal - I am surprised some team does not pick him up for little money.

Re: 2022 PRO Thread

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:42 pm
by maquisard
stevec1975 wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:12 pm
Jay Vine to UAE (From Alpecin-Deceuninck)

UAE are going to be the super team to reckon with, wonder who else is on their radar..

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/racing/al ... m-emirates
UAE are a super team in terms of riders, but not in terms of infrastructure. TJV are now the leaders in that field having basically copied the Sky/Ineos approach.

Re: 2022 PRO Thread

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:40 pm
by ms6073
maquisard wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:42 pm
UAE are a super team in terms of riders, but not in terms of infrastructure. TJV are now the leaders in that field having basically copied the Sky/Ineos approach.
Wonder how long before we see the lesser teams start grousing about caps on how much a team can spend as the FIA did for F1 as few are going to be able to compete with UAE in monetary terms since the team seems to have an unlimited budget.

Re: 2022 PRO Thread

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:20 pm
by Mocs123
BenSiskri wrote:
Tue Nov 01, 2022 12:07 pm
Hmm, not a fan of that type of sponsorship; shoes are/should be a particularly personal choice.

In racing news, PFP returns to CX for the first time in years today at the Koppenbergcross - and in Ineos colours; and now riding with a Shimano groupset, after years and years on Sram.
I think a lot of the team shoe sponsorships will do custom shoes for riders that have feet that don't fit their standard shoes. I'm not a fan of dictated shoes or saddles.

Of course as with all "sponsorships" I've always been curious what the riders would choose if they could pick the bikes, bibs, helmets, saddles, shoes, etc they wanted.

Re: 2022 PRO Thread

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 7:12 pm
by OnTheRivet
TobinHatesYou wrote:
Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:25 pm
ultimobici wrote:
Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:07 pm

I suspect they’ll soon be an opening for a mechanic at Ineos.

Riders of PFP's stature have personal mechanics. One of her conditions for joining Ineos was that she could bring Fabien Boissonnet with her.
They certainly don't know what they are doing in cross. Standing on the wrong side of the bike on a pit handoff is a rookie move.

Re: 2022 PRO Thread

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 7:12 pm
by Weenie

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Re: 2022 PRO Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:19 am
by DanW
It's the same for most top MTB pros... For example, Brad Copeland is the best in the business and Kate Courtney's personal mechanic. They're inseparable. I hear one of the reasons why Kate left Specialized was because they didn't want to retain him.
I've seen this stated no end of times yet Kate seems to have more mechanicals than any other rider.

Bad luck? Mechanic? Bad equipment? Pushing the limits of equipment and setup? Who knows